From mschroeder59 at me.com Wed Feb 1 04:45:38 2012 From: mschroeder59 at me.com (Martin Schroeder) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:45:38 +0100 Subject: File can't connect In-Reply-To: <3DCBA84D-11E6-435B-94D2-DDBDA54AE229@abernackie.com> References: <2669226C-67D4-4A3C-9B40-FDDCDE91ABE2@abernackie.com> <3DCBA84D-11E6-435B-94D2-DDBDA54AE229@abernackie.com> Message-ID: <25695482-092F-473A-90E6-3955BA38B328@me.com> Mark, this sounds to be a corrupted file, I had such an error a few times, while resharing and uploading to the server all seems to go well but for some reason (perhaps unstable network conditions) the transmitted file reaches the enterprise server but becomes corrupted on its way... A few times I had to trash manually such file on the server side until resharing and uploading from the developer machine worked well. Only a thought, good luck, Martin Am 30.01.2012 um 02:25 schrieb Mark Terry: > > If it doesn't know, why/how is it opening up a session on the server (but failing to open the file)? Why is it looking for the *file* ABC Server? is that the normal message? > From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Wed Feb 1 11:44:34 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:44:34 -0600 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? Message-ID: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> Execute & Arraybuild ...again?! This may be somewhat similar to a previous question posted 1/6/12 -- "Exporting from Pop Up selections". Or maybe not.... Original quoted below. I thought it might be both useful and a good exercise to build a subroutine that would track variables and their values in more or less realtime. Good for error checking....and fun to watch. The results could be displayed on a form, via clipboard, Superalert, Formula Wizard, etc. Pan variables are excluded by the ArrayFilter stmt. The results would be displayed something like this: var1 = "bob" var2 = 455 var3 = ....whatever... etc. Is this really a job for Execute/Arraybuild, or is there a easier, smarter way to do build a list of variables and their values at a given point in a procedure? Thanks for any light shed on this little conundrum.... Here's the code: --------------- FileGlobal MyVars , MyVars2 MyVars = "" MyVars2 = "" MyVars = info("filevariables") ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars, ?, ?(import() contains "_", "", import() + " = " + datavalue(sandwich({"}, import(), {"})) ) /* this construction returns "" for the second import() */ /* {datavalue("} +import()+{")} returns a literal string */ local x x = 1 Loop MyVars = ArrayStrip(ArrayDelete(MyVars, ArraySearch(MyVars, "*MyVars*" , 1, ?), 1, ?), ?) /* removes the "MyVars*" variables from the output list */ x = x +1 until x >2 Execute {ArrayBuild MyVars2, ?, "",} +MyVars --- After the Execute stmt, the error message is "Operand expected but not found." --- The MyVars variable returns only a list of variables with no associated values as: var1 = var2 = var3 = ----------------- MC. -- Michael Correll On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > If you use arraybuild you'll have to do this with an execute > statement. > > execute {arraybuild CC, ?, "",}+ BB > > The superarraybuild statement has a special mode that allows this to > be done without the execute statement, for the formula use > > @BB > > You mention the export wizard -- that is how this wizard does it. > The source code for the export wizard is all accessible, so open it > up and take a look. > > Jim > > > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Michael Correll wrote: > > Exporting from Pop Up selections. > > I'm trying to construct a quick export routine based on a series of > Pop Ups. The idea is to take the values from those Pop Ups and and > build a formula that would export from a variable with FileSave. > Procedure below. > > Pop Up objects are named PopUp1, PopUp2, etc. > All Pop Ups contain the same array of FieldNames. > > I'm going off the rails here somewhere. What am I overlooking? The > export formula looks good, but is not building the export array. > > And I'm guessing I'll have to account for datatype in the formula if > I want to export numeric data, right? > > Thanks.......... > --------------------- > > FileGlobal AA, BB, CC, xCount > AA = "" BB = "" CC = "" > xCount =1 > > loop > SelectObjects Objectinfo("name") contains ("PopUp" + str(xCount)) > AA = objectinfo("#FIELD") > AA = Datavalue(AA) > /* returns the name of the field */ > if xCount = 1 > ArrayFilter AA, BB, ? , strip(AA) > endif > > if xCount >1 > BB = Sandwich(BB, ? , strip(AA)) > endif > > xCount = xCount+1 > until xCount >4 > SelectNoObjects > > BB =Replace(BB, ?, {+} + ? +{+}) > /* ...and other variations on this... chevrons, "?", arrayfilter > stmt, etc */ > /* -------> BB currently returns: Field1+ tab() + Field2+ tab()+ > Field3+ tab()...etc . */ > > message datavalue("BB") > > FileSave dbinfo("folder", ""), "MyFatFile.txt", "", BB > > ------------------- From cdpublishing at qwestoffice.net Wed Feb 1 11:49:59 2012 From: cdpublishing at qwestoffice.net (Craig McPherson) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:49:59 -0800 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: wouldn't just a simple formula on a form do it? var1={var1} var2={var2} etc. Craig McPherson On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Michael Correll wrote: > Execute & Arraybuild ...again?! > > This may be somewhat similar to a previous question posted 1/6/12 -- "Exporting from Pop Up selections". Or maybe not.... Original quoted below. > > I thought it might be both useful and a good exercise to build a subroutine that would track variables and their values in more or less realtime. Good for error checking....and fun to watch. The results could be displayed on a form, via clipboard, Superalert, Formula Wizard, etc. Pan variables are excluded by the ArrayFilter stmt. > > The results would be displayed something like this: > var1 = "bob" > var2 = 455 > var3 = ....whatever... etc. > > Is this really a job for Execute/Arraybuild, or is there a easier, smarter way to do build a list of variables and their values at a given point in a procedure? > > Thanks for any light shed on this little conundrum.... > > Here's the code: > --------------- > FileGlobal MyVars , MyVars2 > MyVars = "" MyVars2 = "" > MyVars = info("filevariables") > ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars, ?, ?(import() contains "_", "", import() + " = " + datavalue(sandwich({"}, import(), {"})) ) > /* this construction returns "" for the second import() */ > /* {datavalue("} +import()+{")} returns a literal string */ > local x > x = 1 > Loop > MyVars = ArrayStrip(ArrayDelete(MyVars, ArraySearch(MyVars, "*MyVars*" , 1, ?), 1, ?), ?) > /* removes the "MyVars*" variables from the output list */ > x = x +1 > until x >2 > > Execute {ArrayBuild MyVars2, ?, "",} +MyVars > > --- After the Execute stmt, the error message is "Operand expected but not found." > --- The MyVars variable returns only a list of variables with no associated values as: > > var1 = > var2 = > var3 = > > ----------------- > > MC. > -- > Michael Correll > > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > >> If you use arraybuild you'll have to do this with an execute statement. >> >> execute {arraybuild CC, ?, "",}+ BB >> >> The superarraybuild statement has a special mode that allows this to be done without the execute statement, for the formula use >> >> @BB >> >> You mention the export wizard -- that is how this wizard does it. The source code for the export wizard is all accessible, so open it up and take a look. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Michael Correll wrote: >> >> Exporting from Pop Up selections. >> >> I'm trying to construct a quick export routine based on a series of Pop Ups. The idea is to take the values from those Pop Ups and and build a formula that would export from a variable with FileSave. Procedure below. >> >> Pop Up objects are named PopUp1, PopUp2, etc. >> All Pop Ups contain the same array of FieldNames. >> >> I'm going off the rails here somewhere. What am I overlooking? The export formula looks good, but is not building the export array. >> >> And I'm guessing I'll have to account for datatype in the formula if I want to export numeric data, right? >> >> Thanks.......... >> --------------------- >> >> FileGlobal AA, BB, CC, xCount >> AA = "" BB = "" CC = "" >> xCount =1 >> >> loop >> SelectObjects Objectinfo("name") contains ("PopUp" + str(xCount)) >> AA = objectinfo("#FIELD") >> AA = Datavalue(AA) >> /* returns the name of the field */ >> if xCount = 1 >> ArrayFilter AA, BB, ? , strip(AA) >> endif >> >> if xCount >1 >> BB = Sandwich(BB, ? , strip(AA)) >> endif >> >> xCount = xCount+1 >> until xCount >4 >> SelectNoObjects >> >> BB =Replace(BB, ?, {+} + ? +{+}) >> /* ...and other variations on this... chevrons, "?", arrayfilter stmt, etc */ >> /* -------> BB currently returns: Field1+ tab() + Field2+ tab()+ Field3+ tab()...etc . */ >> >> message datavalue("BB") >> >> FileSave dbinfo("folder", ""), "MyFatFile.txt", "", BB >> >> ------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From cdpublishing at qwestoffice.net Wed Feb 1 12:15:31 2012 From: cdpublishing at qwestoffice.net (Craig McPherson) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:15:31 -0800 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: <6E59D31F-0E1D-485C-A961-08C4C550B290@qwestoffice.net> probably should be "var1 = "+{var1} "var2 = "+{var2} Craig McPherson On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Craig McPherson wrote: > wouldn't just a simple formula on a form do it? > > var1={var1} > var2={var2} > etc. > > Craig McPherson > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Michael Correll wrote: > >> Execute & Arraybuild ...again?! >> >> This may be somewhat similar to a previous question posted 1/6/12 -- "Exporting from Pop Up selections". Or maybe not.... Original quoted below. >> >> I thought it might be both useful and a good exercise to build a subroutine that would track variables and their values in more or less realtime. Good for error checking....and fun to watch. The results could be displayed on a form, via clipboard, Superalert, Formula Wizard, etc. Pan variables are excluded by the ArrayFilter stmt. >> >> The results would be displayed something like this: >> var1 = "bob" >> var2 = 455 >> var3 = ....whatever... etc. >> >> Is this really a job for Execute/Arraybuild, or is there a easier, smarter way to do build a list of variables and their values at a given point in a procedure? >> >> Thanks for any light shed on this little conundrum.... >> >> Here's the code: >> --------------- >> FileGlobal MyVars , MyVars2 >> MyVars = "" MyVars2 = "" >> MyVars = info("filevariables") >> ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars, ?, ?(import() contains "_", "", import() + " = " + datavalue(sandwich({"}, import(), {"})) ) >> /* this construction returns "" for the second import() */ >> /* {datavalue("} +import()+{")} returns a literal string */ >> local x >> x = 1 >> Loop >> MyVars = ArrayStrip(ArrayDelete(MyVars, ArraySearch(MyVars, "*MyVars*" , 1, ?), 1, ?), ?) >> /* removes the "MyVars*" variables from the output list */ >> x = x +1 >> until x >2 >> >> Execute {ArrayBuild MyVars2, ?, "",} +MyVars >> >> --- After the Execute stmt, the error message is "Operand expected but not found." >> --- The MyVars variable returns only a list of variables with no associated values as: >> >> var1 = >> var2 = >> var3 = >> >> ----------------- >> >> MC. >> -- >> Michael Correll >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >> >>> If you use arraybuild you'll have to do this with an execute statement. >>> >>> execute {arraybuild CC, ?, "",}+ BB >>> >>> The superarraybuild statement has a special mode that allows this to be done without the execute statement, for the formula use >>> >>> @BB >>> >>> You mention the export wizard -- that is how this wizard does it. The source code for the export wizard is all accessible, so open it up and take a look. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Michael Correll wrote: >>> >>> Exporting from Pop Up selections. >>> >>> I'm trying to construct a quick export routine based on a series of Pop Ups. The idea is to take the values from those Pop Ups and and build a formula that would export from a variable with FileSave. Procedure below. >>> >>> Pop Up objects are named PopUp1, PopUp2, etc. >>> All Pop Ups contain the same array of FieldNames. >>> >>> I'm going off the rails here somewhere. What am I overlooking? The export formula looks good, but is not building the export array. >>> >>> And I'm guessing I'll have to account for datatype in the formula if I want to export numeric data, right? >>> >>> Thanks.......... >>> --------------------- >>> >>> FileGlobal AA, BB, CC, xCount >>> AA = "" BB = "" CC = "" >>> xCount =1 >>> >>> loop >>> SelectObjects Objectinfo("name") contains ("PopUp" + str(xCount)) >>> AA = objectinfo("#FIELD") >>> AA = Datavalue(AA) >>> /* returns the name of the field */ >>> if xCount = 1 >>> ArrayFilter AA, BB, ? , strip(AA) >>> endif >>> >>> if xCount >1 >>> BB = Sandwich(BB, ? , strip(AA)) >>> endif >>> >>> xCount = xCount+1 >>> until xCount >4 >>> SelectNoObjects >>> >>> BB =Replace(BB, ?, {+} + ? +{+}) >>> /* ...and other variations on this... chevrons, "?", arrayfilter stmt, etc */ >>> /* -------> BB currently returns: Field1+ tab() + Field2+ tab()+ Field3+ tab()...etc . */ >>> >>> message datavalue("BB") >>> >>> FileSave dbinfo("folder", ""), "MyFatFile.txt", "", BB >>> >>> ------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Wed Feb 1 12:32:28 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:32:28 -0600 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: <1C4EF9BA-3128-4DF0-BD6C-C08BF8D1D713@memphisbusiness.com> Thanks Craig... It would. However, I was trying out to work out a formula to do this "automatically" -- primarily as an exercise. My other excuse is that as variables are declared and added or deleted (sometimes rather quickly and capriciously) the whole thing would update with a single variable in the procedure. But yeah, that would be the fallback. That's the way I've done it in the past. Plus clipboard, Formula Wiz, etc. M. -- Michael Correll On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Craig McPherson wrote: > wouldn't just a simple formula on a form do it? > > var1={var1} > var2={var2} > etc. > > Craig McPherson > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Michael Correll wrote: > >> Execute & Arraybuild ...again?! >> >> This may be somewhat similar to a previous question posted 1/6/12 >> -- "Exporting from Pop Up selections". Or maybe not.... Original >> quoted below. >> >> I thought it might be both useful and a good exercise to build a >> subroutine that would track variables and their values in more or >> less realtime. Good for error checking....and fun to watch. The >> results could be displayed on a form, via clipboard, Superalert, >> Formula Wizard, etc. Pan variables are excluded by the ArrayFilter >> stmt. >> >> The results would be displayed something like this: >> var1 = "bob" >> var2 = 455 >> var3 = ....whatever... etc. >> >> Is this really a job for Execute/Arraybuild, or is there a easier, >> smarter way to do build a list of variables and their values at a >> given point in a procedure? >> >> Thanks for any light shed on this little conundrum.... >> >> Here's the code: >> --------------- >> FileGlobal MyVars , MyVars2 >> MyVars = "" MyVars2 = "" >> MyVars = info("filevariables") >> ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars, ?, ?(import() contains "_", "", >> import() + " = " + datavalue(sandwich({"}, import(), {"})) ) >> /* this construction returns "" for the second >> import() */ >> /* {datavalue("} +import()+{")} returns a literal >> string */ >> local x >> x = 1 >> Loop >> MyVars = ArrayStrip(ArrayDelete(MyVars, ArraySearch(MyVars, >> "*MyVars*" , 1, ?), 1, ?), ?) >> /* removes the "MyVars*" variables from the output list */ >> x = x +1 >> until x >2 >> >> Execute {ArrayBuild MyVars2, ?, "",} +MyVars >> >> --- After the Execute stmt, the error message is "Operand >> expected but not found." >> --- The MyVars variable returns only a list of variables with no >> associated values as: >> >> var1 = >> var2 = >> var3 = >> >> ----------------- >> >> MC. >> -- >> Michael Correll >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >> >>> If you use arraybuild you'll have to do this with an execute >>> statement. >>> >>> execute {arraybuild CC, ?, "",}+ BB >>> >>> The superarraybuild statement has a special mode that allows this >>> to be done without the execute statement, for the formula use >>> >>> @BB >>> >>> You mention the export wizard -- that is how this wizard does it. >>> The source code for the export wizard is all accessible, so open >>> it up and take a look. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Michael Correll wrote: >>> >>> Exporting from Pop Up selections. >>> >>> I'm trying to construct a quick export routine based on a series >>> of Pop Ups. The idea is to take the values from those Pop Ups and >>> and build a formula that would export from a variable with >>> FileSave. Procedure below. >>> >>> Pop Up objects are named PopUp1, PopUp2, etc. >>> All Pop Ups contain the same array of FieldNames. >>> >>> I'm going off the rails here somewhere. What am I overlooking? >>> The export formula looks good, but is not building the export array. >>> >>> And I'm guessing I'll have to account for datatype in the formula >>> if I want to export numeric data, right? >>> >>> Thanks.......... >>> --------------------- >>> >>> FileGlobal AA, BB, CC, xCount >>> AA = "" BB = "" CC = "" >>> xCount =1 >>> >>> loop >>> SelectObjects Objectinfo("name") contains ("PopUp" + str(xCount)) >>> AA = objectinfo("#FIELD") >>> AA = Datavalue(AA) >>> /* returns the name of the field */ >>> if xCount = 1 >>> ArrayFilter AA, BB, ? , strip(AA) >>> endif >>> >>> if xCount >1 >>> BB = Sandwich(BB, ? , strip(AA)) >>> endif >>> >>> xCount = xCount+1 >>> until xCount >4 >>> SelectNoObjects >>> >>> BB =Replace(BB, ?, {+} + ? +{+}) >>> /* ...and other variations on this... chevrons, "?", arrayfilter >>> stmt, etc */ >>> /* -------> BB currently returns: Field1+ tab() + Field2+ tab()+ >>> Field3+ tab()...etc . */ >>> >>> message datavalue("BB") >>> >>> FileSave dbinfo("folder", ""), "MyFatFile.txt", "", BB >>> >>> ------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From cdpublishing at qwestoffice.net Wed Feb 1 12:38:18 2012 From: cdpublishing at qwestoffice.net (Craig McPherson) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:38:18 -0800 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: <1C4EF9BA-3128-4DF0-BD6C-C08BF8D1D713@memphisbusiness.com> References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> <1C4EF9BA-3128-4DF0-BD6C-C08BF8D1D713@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: found this from probably ten years ago: Just a little hack I invented this morning to automatically update window display of ALL windowvariables in a given window. It should work fine for globals and filevariables too: Local Executor ArrayFilter info("WindowVariables") ,Executor,?,{ShowVariables }+import()+{} Execute Executor watts ------- Craig McPherson On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Correll wrote: > Thanks Craig... > > It would. However, I was trying out to work out a formula to do this "automatically" -- primarily as an exercise. My other excuse is that as variables are declared and added or deleted (sometimes rather quickly and capriciously) the whole thing would update with a single variable in the procedure. > > But yeah, that would be the fallback. That's the way I've done it in the past. Plus clipboard, Formula Wiz, etc. > > M. > > -- > Michael Correll > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Craig McPherson wrote: > >> wouldn't just a simple formula on a form do it? >> >> var1={var1} >> var2={var2} >> etc. >> >> Craig McPherson >> >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Michael Correll wrote: >> >>> Execute & Arraybuild ...again?! >>> >>> This may be somewhat similar to a previous question posted 1/6/12 -- "Exporting from Pop Up selections". Or maybe not.... Original quoted below. >>> >>> I thought it might be both useful and a good exercise to build a subroutine that would track variables and their values in more or less realtime. Good for error checking....and fun to watch. The results could be displayed on a form, via clipboard, Superalert, Formula Wizard, etc. Pan variables are excluded by the ArrayFilter stmt. >>> >>> The results would be displayed something like this: >>> var1 = "bob" >>> var2 = 455 >>> var3 = ....whatever... etc. >>> >>> Is this really a job for Execute/Arraybuild, or is there a easier, smarter way to do build a list of variables and their values at a given point in a procedure? >>> >>> Thanks for any light shed on this little conundrum.... >>> >>> Here's the code: >>> --------------- >>> FileGlobal MyVars , MyVars2 >>> MyVars = "" MyVars2 = "" >>> MyVars = info("filevariables") >>> ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars, ?, ?(import() contains "_", "", import() + " = " + datavalue(sandwich({"}, import(), {"})) ) >>> /* this construction returns "" for the second import() */ >>> /* {datavalue("} +import()+{")} returns a literal string */ >>> local x >>> x = 1 >>> Loop >>> MyVars = ArrayStrip(ArrayDelete(MyVars, ArraySearch(MyVars, "*MyVars*" , 1, ?), 1, ?), ?) >>> /* removes the "MyVars*" variables from the output list */ >>> x = x +1 >>> until x >2 >>> >>> Execute {ArrayBuild MyVars2, ?, "",} +MyVars >>> >>> --- After the Execute stmt, the error message is "Operand expected but not found." >>> --- The MyVars variable returns only a list of variables with no associated values as: >>> >>> var1 = >>> var2 = >>> var3 = >>> >>> ----------------- >>> >>> MC. >>> -- >>> Michael Correll >>> >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >>> >>>> If you use arraybuild you'll have to do this with an execute statement. >>>> >>>> execute {arraybuild CC, ?, "",}+ BB >>>> >>>> The superarraybuild statement has a special mode that allows this to be done without the execute statement, for the formula use >>>> >>>> @BB >>>> >>>> You mention the export wizard -- that is how this wizard does it. The source code for the export wizard is all accessible, so open it up and take a look. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Michael Correll wrote: >>>> >>>> Exporting from Pop Up selections. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to construct a quick export routine based on a series of Pop Ups. The idea is to take the values from those Pop Ups and and build a formula that would export from a variable with FileSave. Procedure below. >>>> >>>> Pop Up objects are named PopUp1, PopUp2, etc. >>>> All Pop Ups contain the same array of FieldNames. >>>> >>>> I'm going off the rails here somewhere. What am I overlooking? The export formula looks good, but is not building the export array. >>>> >>>> And I'm guessing I'll have to account for datatype in the formula if I want to export numeric data, right? >>>> >>>> Thanks.......... >>>> --------------------- >>>> >>>> FileGlobal AA, BB, CC, xCount >>>> AA = "" BB = "" CC = "" >>>> xCount =1 >>>> >>>> loop >>>> SelectObjects Objectinfo("name") contains ("PopUp" + str(xCount)) >>>> AA = objectinfo("#FIELD") >>>> AA = Datavalue(AA) >>>> /* returns the name of the field */ >>>> if xCount = 1 >>>> ArrayFilter AA, BB, ? , strip(AA) >>>> endif >>>> >>>> if xCount >1 >>>> BB = Sandwich(BB, ? , strip(AA)) >>>> endif >>>> >>>> xCount = xCount+1 >>>> until xCount >4 >>>> SelectNoObjects >>>> >>>> BB =Replace(BB, ?, {+} + ? +{+}) >>>> /* ...and other variations on this... chevrons, "?", arrayfilter stmt, etc */ >>>> /* -------> BB currently returns: Field1+ tab() + Field2+ tab()+ Field3+ tab()...etc . */ >>>> >>>> message datavalue("BB") >>>> >>>> FileSave dbinfo("folder", ""), "MyFatFile.txt", "", BB >>>> >>>> ------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Wed Feb 1 14:24:05 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:24:05 +0000 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: This code worked for me. FileGlobal Var1, Var2, Var3,My_Vars2 Local My_Vars Var1 = "Bob" Var2 = 455 Var3 = "Whatever...etc." My_Vars = info("filevariables") ArrayFilter My_Vars,My_Vars,?,?(import() contains "_","",import()) My_Vars = arraystrip(My_Vars,?) ArrayFilter My_Vars, My_Vars2,?, import()+" = " + ?(datatype(import()) contains "text",{"},{}) + str(datavalue(import())) + ?(datatype(import()) contains "text",{"},{}) ShowVariables My_Vars2 I displayed My_Vars2 in a TDSO Dave ________________________________________ From: Michael Correll [mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:44 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers ((Discussion)) Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? Execute & Arraybuild ...again?! This may be somewhat similar to a previous question posted 1/6/12 -- "Exporting from Pop Up selections". Or maybe not.... Original quoted below. I thought it might be both useful and a good exercise to build a subroutine that would track variables and their values in more or less realtime. Good for error checking....and fun to watch. The results could be displayed on a form, via clipboard, Superalert, Formula Wizard, etc. Pan variables are excluded by the ArrayFilter stmt. The results would be displayed something like this: var1 = "bob" var2 = 455 var3 = ....whatever... etc. Is this really a job for Execute/Arraybuild, or is there a easier, smarter way to do build a list of variables and their values at a given point in a procedure? Thanks for any light shed on this little conundrum.... Here's the code: --------------- FileGlobal MyVars , MyVars2 MyVars = "" MyVars2 = "" MyVars = info("filevariables") ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars, ?, ?(import() contains "_", "", import() + " = " + datavalue(sandwich({"}, import(), {"})) ) /* this construction returns "" for the second import() */ /* {datavalue("} +import()+{")} returns a literal string */ local x x = 1 Loop MyVars = ArrayStrip(ArrayDelete(MyVars, ArraySearch(MyVars, "*MyVars*" , 1, ?), 1, ?), ?) /* removes the "MyVars*" variables from the output list */ x = x +1 until x >2 Execute {ArrayBuild MyVars2, ?, "",} +MyVars --- After the Execute stmt, the error message is "Operand expected but not found." --- The MyVars variable returns only a list of variables with no associated values as: var1 = var2 = var3 = ----------------- MC. -- Michael Correll On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > If you use arraybuild you'll have to do this with an execute > statement. > > execute {arraybuild CC, ?, "",}+ BB > > The superarraybuild statement has a special mode that allows this to > be done without the execute statement, for the formula use > > @BB > > You mention the export wizard -- that is how this wizard does it. > The source code for the export wizard is all accessible, so open it > up and take a look. > > Jim > > > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Michael Correll wrote: > > Exporting from Pop Up selections. > > I'm trying to construct a quick export routine based on a series of > Pop Ups. The idea is to take the values from those Pop Ups and and > build a formula that would export from a variable with FileSave. > Procedure below. > > Pop Up objects are named PopUp1, PopUp2, etc. > All Pop Ups contain the same array of FieldNames. > > I'm going off the rails here somewhere. What am I overlooking? The > export formula looks good, but is not building the export array. > > And I'm guessing I'll have to account for datatype in the formula if > I want to export numeric data, right? > > Thanks.......... > --------------------- > > FileGlobal AA, BB, CC, xCount > AA = "" BB = "" CC = "" > xCount =1 > > loop > SelectObjects Objectinfo("name") contains ("PopUp" + str(xCount)) > AA = objectinfo("#FIELD") > AA = Datavalue(AA) > /* returns the name of the field */ > if xCount = 1 > ArrayFilter AA, BB, ? , strip(AA) > endif > > if xCount >1 > BB = Sandwich(BB, ? , strip(AA)) > endif > > xCount = xCount+1 > until xCount >4 > SelectNoObjects > > BB =Replace(BB, ?, {+} + ? +{+}) > /* ...and other variations on this... chevrons, "?", arrayfilter > stmt, etc */ > /* -------> BB currently returns: Field1+ tab() + Field2+ tab()+ > Field3+ tab()...etc . */ > > message datavalue("BB") > > FileSave dbinfo("folder", ""), "MyFatFile.txt", "", BB > > ------------------- _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Wed Feb 1 15:42:45 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:42:45 -0600 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: Craig: Thanks for birddoggin' this....however, in this case it wouldn't compile. Error: "Cannot compile...one or more incorrect steps" In a AWT or the Formula Wiz it showed "ShowVariableswasDlgState". Perhaps this was part of a dialog? And intended to update all variables in the display -- rather than build an array of variables and their values? Dave: Thanks! Your formulation works and displays in a TDSO, AWT, Formula Wiz, etc. However, when the procedure is triggered (by clicking in a matrix), it gives the message "Variable contents have not been defined: MyVars" It does that even though a Message stmt immediately before the ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars2 .... stmt accurately returns the list of variables in MyVars. (???) I may have a further question or two on this after I have a bit of time to digest it and play with it a bit more. Thanks both... MC. -- Michael Correll On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > This code worked for me. > > FileGlobal Var1, Var2, Var3,My_Vars2 > Local My_Vars > Var1 = "Bob" > Var2 = 455 > Var3 = "Whatever...etc." > My_Vars = info("filevariables") > ArrayFilter My_Vars,My_Vars,?,?(import() contains "_","",import()) > My_Vars = arraystrip(My_Vars,?) > ArrayFilter My_Vars, My_Vars2,?, import()+" = " + ? > (datatype(import()) contains "text",{"},{}) + > str(datavalue(import())) + ?(datatype(import()) contains "text",{"}, > {}) > ShowVariables My_Vars2 > > I displayed My_Vars2 in a TDSO > > Dave ---------------- > Local Executor > ArrayFilter info("WindowVariables") ,Executor,?,{ShowVariables > }+import()+{} > Execute Executor From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Wed Feb 1 16:13:35 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 00:13:35 +0000 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> , Message-ID: You apparently changed my code. I made My_Vars a local variable, and My_Vars2 a fileglobal. I also included the _ underscores so that My_Vars2 would be removed from the list at the same time that Provue's permanent variables were. Dave ________________________________________ From: Michael Correll [mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:42 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? Craig: Thanks for birddoggin' this....however, in this case it wouldn't compile. Error: "Cannot compile...one or more incorrect steps" In a AWT or the Formula Wiz it showed "ShowVariableswasDlgState". Perhaps this was part of a dialog? And intended to update all variables in the display -- rather than build an array of variables and their values? Dave: Thanks! Your formulation works and displays in a TDSO, AWT, Formula Wiz, etc. However, when the procedure is triggered (by clicking in a matrix), it gives the message "Variable contents have not been defined: MyVars" It does that even though a Message stmt immediately before the ArrayFilter MyVars, MyVars2 .... stmt accurately returns the list of variables in MyVars. (???) I may have a further question or two on this after I have a bit of time to digest it and play with it a bit more. Thanks both... MC. -- Michael Correll On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > This code worked for me. > > FileGlobal Var1, Var2, Var3,My_Vars2 > Local My_Vars > Var1 = "Bob" > Var2 = 455 > Var3 = "Whatever...etc." > My_Vars = info("filevariables") > ArrayFilter My_Vars,My_Vars,?,?(import() contains "_","",import()) > My_Vars = arraystrip(My_Vars,?) > ArrayFilter My_Vars, My_Vars2,?, import()+" = " + ? > (datatype(import()) contains "text",{"},{}) + > str(datavalue(import())) + ?(datatype(import()) contains "text",{"}, > {}) > ShowVariables My_Vars2 > > I displayed My_Vars2 in a TDSO > > Dave ---------------- > Local Executor > ArrayFilter info("WindowVariables") ,Executor,?,{ShowVariables > }+import()+{} > Execute Executor From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Wed Feb 1 17:10:06 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:10:06 -0600 Subject: Execute & Arraybuild ...again? In-Reply-To: References: <8E4A098C-6FB6-4B54-9C69-4FFC03BC10DE@memphisbusiness.com> , Message-ID: <6B621993-AA18-4ED8-9E5B-8AD56E58A34D@memphisbusiness.com> Dave: Yup, I did. With just a quick glance I didn't recognize what is now obvious on the underscore. And I changed the local to FG just to see the result. However, changing everything back to your original still produced the same error -- "Variable contents have not been defined: My_Vars." (???) But what was instructive was construction of the ArrayFilter. The 'guts' of the equation seems to be {"} + str(datavalue(import())) + {"} OR {} + str(datavalue(import())) + {} (as the case may be.) I had never considered that kind of construction or that str(datavalue(import())) would be a valid expression, but it works! And now it makes sense....! The big new thing is that str(TextField) is a valid expression, returning the value of the field just as simply using the name of the field by itself would. Thanks Dave. MC> -- Michael Correll On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > You apparently changed my code. I made My_Vars a local variable, and > My_Vars2 a fileglobal. I also included the _ underscores so that > My_Vars2 would be removed from the list at the same time that > Provue's permanent variables were. > > Dave From tapprint at tapprint.com Thu Feb 2 11:43:44 2012 From: tapprint at tapprint.com (Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:43:44 -0500 Subject: Continuous crashing Message-ID: I am using version 5.5.2 Build 80512. Using a Mac version 10.6.8. As of 1:45 p.m. anytime I try to save a newly created Panorama file, the program crashes. If I try to open a new file. It also crashes. Any suggestions as to what to try to fix this problem? Tim Timothy A. Pray Tap Printing, Inc. Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 Warren, RI 02885 401-247-2188 Fax: 401-245-6270 tapprint at tapprint.com www.tapprint.com Please note: If this requires immediate attention please call my office. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Thu Feb 2 12:17:59 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:17:59 -0800 Subject: Snow Leopard Security Update breaks Rosetta Applications (like Panorama 5.5 or 5.0) Message-ID: Yesterday Apple released a security patch for Snow Leopard (10.6.8). We haven't installed this patch here at ProVUE yet, but today there are reports that this patch breaks PowerPC applications. http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/snowleopard/index.html#d02feb2012 If you are using Panorama 5.5 or earlier on Snow Leopard, we would recommend that you NOT install this new security patch until Apple revises it to fix this problem. If you are using Panorama 6 then there should be no problem, since Panorama 6 does not use Rosetta. Jim Rea -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Thu Feb 2 12:20:20 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:20:20 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you just install the new security patch from Apple? That is the exact symptom other users of Rosetta applications are reporting (for Quicken, Microsoft Office 2004, etc.) At this point you either need to restore your system from a backup, or upgrade to Panorama 6. Jim Rea On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray < tapprint at tapprint.com> wrote: > I am using version 5.5.2 Build 80512. Using a Mac version 10.6.8. > > As of 1:45 p.m. anytime I try to save a newly created Panorama file, the > program crashes. > > If I try to open a new file. It also crashes. > > Any suggestions as to what to try to fix this problem? > > Tim > * > > > Timothy A. Pray > Tap Printing, Inc. > Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail > 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 > Warren, RI 02885 > 401-247-2188 Fax: 401-245-6270 > tapprint at tapprint.com www.tapprint.com > Please note: If this requires immediate attention please call my office. > > * > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net Thu Feb 2 12:38:13 2012 From: samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net (Sam Rutherford) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:38:13 -0600 Subject: printing to pdf Message-ID: <67A2EB02-5BAE-440B-A929-A2D21C638BB6@musiccitymetals.net> I have a procedure that prints a series of reports. It works fine if I'm printing to an actual printer. However it can't print to pdf. I've tried using print "" with the cups-pdf printer selected. I've also tried using printpdf {path = folder(dsk) file = array(carray, n, ?) + '.pdf'} and printpdf (with no options specified) both with the cups-pdf printer selected and with other printers selected. In all cases I get this error: File "" or disk may be locked or busy. Unlock and try again. I can get a pdf manually, both with the cups printer and by choosing save as pdf in a print dialog, but I need to be able to get a batch of pdf's using the procedure. Thanks, Sam ________________________________________________________________ Sam Rutherford Music City Metals 615/255-4481 samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Thu Feb 2 13:09:26 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:09:26 +0000 Subject: printing to pdf In-Reply-To: <67A2EB02-5BAE-440B-A929-A2D21C638BB6@musiccitymetals.net> References: <67A2EB02-5BAE-440B-A929-A2D21C638BB6@musiccitymetals.net> Message-ID: Try downloading my _PDFPrinting library from . Unzip it and place it in Panorama:Extensions:Libraries: and then re-launch Panorama if it's currently running. Once you have that library installed, you can try PDFSetup dsk+array(carray, n, ?) + '.pdf' Print "" The first command will set it up so that Print "" will print a PDF using the Mac's built in PDF printing capability, not CUPS. After installation you can open the Custom Statements wizard, and choose the _PDFPrinting library, to see the complete documentation for this custom statement. Dave ________________________________________ From: Sam Rutherford [samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:38 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: printing to pdf I have a procedure that prints a series of reports. It works fine if I'm printing to an actual printer. However it can't print to pdf. I've tried using print "" with the cups-pdf printer selected. I've also tried using printpdf {path = folder(dsk) file = array(carray, n, ?) + '.pdf'} and printpdf (with no options specified) both with the cups-pdf printer selected and with other printers selected. In all cases I get this error: File "" or disk may be locked or busy. Unlock and try again. I can get a pdf manually, both with the cups printer and by choosing save as pdf in a print dialog, but I need to be able to get a batch of pdf's using the procedure. Thanks, Sam ________________________________________________________________ Sam Rutherford Music City Metals 615/255-4481 samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From gef at yasodhara.org Thu Feb 2 13:18:59 2012 From: gef at yasodhara.org (geoffroy tremblay) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:18:59 -0700 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: my - that's scary - so is there a fix planned or rosetta will not work anymore ? I've started to notice more and more quirk with rosetta in the last few upgrade On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > Did you just install the new security patch from Apple? That is the exact > symptom other users of Rosetta applications are reporting (for Quicken, > Microsoft Office 2004, etc.) > > At this point you either need to restore your system from a backup, or > upgrade to Panorama 6. > > Jim Rea > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray > wrote: >> >> I am using version 5.5.2 Build 80512. ?Using a Mac version 10.6.8. >> >> As of 1:45 p.m. anytime I try to save a newly created Panorama file, the >> program crashes. >> >> If I try to open a new file. ?It also crashes. >> >> Any suggestions as to what to try to fix this problem? >> >> Tim >> >> >> Timothy A. Pray >> Tap Printing, Inc. >> Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail >> 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 >> Warren, RI 02885 >> 401-247-2188???Fax:??401-245-6270 >> tapprint at tapprint.com? ? ? ??www.tapprint.com >> Please note:???If this requires immediate attention please call my office. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From jim at provue.com Thu Feb 2 15:31:53 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:31:53 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apple doesn't tell us mere mortals what there plans are! Since Rosetta was dropped completely from Lion I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bother to fix this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did either. Again, Panorama 6 users don't have to worry about this either way -- and as a bonus Panorama 6 runs about 5x faster than 5.5 on Snow Leopard machines. Jim On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:18 PM, geoffroy tremblay wrote: > my - that's scary - so is there a fix planned or rosetta will not work > anymore ? I've started to notice more and more quirk with rosetta in > the last few upgrade > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > > Did you just install the new security patch from Apple? That is the exact > > symptom other users of Rosetta applications are reporting (for Quicken, > > Microsoft Office 2004, etc.) > > > > At this point you either need to restore your system from a backup, or > > upgrade to Panorama 6. > > > > Jim Rea > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray > > wrote: > >> > >> I am using version 5.5.2 Build 80512. Using a Mac version 10.6.8. > >> > >> As of 1:45 p.m. anytime I try to save a newly created Panorama file, the > >> program crashes. > >> > >> If I try to open a new file. It also crashes. > >> > >> Any suggestions as to what to try to fix this problem? > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> > >> Timothy A. Pray > >> Tap Printing, Inc. > >> Design ? Copy ? Print ? 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URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Thu Feb 2 20:27:39 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:27:39 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suspect that Apple does not have many beta testers that are still using Snow Leopard. That is to be expected, as the beta testers would have moved on to Lion by now, because presumably their problems have been worked out. Also, most of them would be fairly geeky to be asked to be a beta tester in the first place, so they would have moved on already. This is probably an indication that I should just move on to Lion now. Bruce De Benedictis > my - that's scary - so is there a fix planned or rosetta will not work > anymore ? I've started to notice more and more quirk with rosetta in > the last few upgrade > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >> Did you just install the new security patch from Apple? That is the exact >> symptom other users of Rosetta applications are reporting (for Quicken, >> Microsoft Office 2004, etc.) >> >> At this point you either need to restore your system from a backup, or >> upgrade to Panorama 6. >> >> Jim Rea >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray >> wrote: >>> >>> I am using version 5.5.2 Build 80512. ?Using a Mac version 10.6.8. >>> >>> As of 1:45 p.m. anytime I try to save a newly created Panorama file, the >>> program crashes. >>> >>> If I try to open a new file. ?It also crashes. >>> >>> Any suggestions as to what to try to fix this problem? >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> Timothy A. Pray >>> Tap Printing, Inc. >>> Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail >>> 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 >>> Warren, RI 02885 >>> 401-247-2188???Fax:??401-245-6270 >>> tapprint at tapprint.com? ? ? ??www.tapprint.com >>> Please note:???If this requires immediate attention please call my office. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From jim at provue.com Fri Feb 3 09:34:32 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:34:32 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: TidBITS mentions a possible fix this morning (I have not tried this). http://tidbits.com/article/12768 And of course upgrading to Panorama 6 also fixes the problem, and supports your favorite database software vendor :) Jim On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Bruce De Benedictis < bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com> wrote: > I suspect that Apple does not have many beta testers that are still using > Snow Leopard. That is to be expected, as the beta testers would have moved > on to Lion by now, because presumably their problems have been worked out. > Also, most of them would be fairly geeky to be asked to be a beta tester in > the first place, so they would have moved on already. > > This is probably an indication that I should just move on to Lion now. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > > my - that's scary - so is there a fix planned or rosetta will not work > > anymore ? I've started to notice more and more quirk with rosetta in > > the last few upgrade > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > >> Did you just install the new security patch from Apple? That is the > exact > >> symptom other users of Rosetta applications are reporting (for Quicken, > >> Microsoft Office 2004, etc.) > >> > >> At this point you either need to restore your system from a backup, or > >> upgrade to Panorama 6. > >> > >> Jim Rea > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I am using version 5.5.2 Build 80512. Using a Mac version 10.6.8. > >>> > >>> As of 1:45 p.m. anytime I try to save a newly created Panorama file, > the > >>> program crashes. > >>> > >>> If I try to open a new file. It also crashes. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions as to what to try to fix this problem? > >>> > >>> Tim > >>> > >>> > >>> Timothy A. Pray > >>> Tap Printing, Inc. > >>> Design ? Copy ? Print ? 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Since Rosetta was dropped completely from Lion I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bother to fix this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did either. Again, Panorama 6 users don't have to worry about this either way -- and as a bonus Panorama 6 runs about 5x faster than 5.5 on Snow Leopard machines. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Fri Feb 3 09:42:47 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:42:47 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> Message-ID: Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. Jim On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: > It's not like Rosetta is so deeply embedded into the OS (like legacy code > used to be in Windows) that they had to cut it loose to move forward. > > It's a separate software emulation module that they could have easily kept > alive or offered as a separate install. > > But then again, Apple decided that "natural" scrolling in Lion was the > opposite of the way of has been for decades. > > > What I'm going to do is clone my current iMac to an external HD so that I > can always go back to the way things were if I find something that needs > Rosetta. > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > > Apple doesn't tell us mere mortals what there plans are! Since Rosetta was > dropped completely from Lion I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bother > to fix this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did either. Again, > Panorama 6 users don't have to worry about this either way -- and as a > bonus Panorama 6 runs about 5x faster than 5.5 on Snow Leopard machines. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From qnaweb at provue.com Fri Feb 3 10:27:26 2012 From: qnaweb at provue.com (Robert Kraay) Date: 3 Feb 2012 10:27:26 -0800 Subject: Enterprise Internet Sharing Permissions error Failed to load CGI Message-ID: We have been running the Enterprise Server on our local network for some time now, but want to enable Internet Sharing. When we toggle Internet Sharing to "Yes" we get the message "Failed to install CGI (incorrect system administrator password)." And when we try to connect remotely, the server isn't found. On the discussion forums, we've seen users indicating that this is a permissions problem, however, we are running OS X Server 10.6.8 with an Access Control List and all permissions seem to be fine. We've looked in the Library:WebServer:CGI-Executables folder and all over the Applications:Panorama folder and both the ACL permissions and POSIX permissions are correct. Just FYI: On the server we don't have an option for "Personal Web Sharing;" however, we do have the web server turned on. Additionally, we have a static external IP with port 80 being forwarded to our server. We've been able to connect remotely for file sharing with and without a VPN just fine. Any ideas what what could be the problem? From rstrauch at somatic.com Fri Feb 3 10:37:11 2012 From: rstrauch at somatic.com (Ralph Strauch) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:37:11 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> Message-ID: <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> Virtualbox will support a Snow Leopard virtual machine that might have greater longevity than a 10.6 hard drive. To set up the VM you do need a version of SL that runs on your current machine; if you have a relatively new computer the original SL install disk won't work. I used the SL restore disk that came with my computer then ran updates to that system. I imagine a current clone might also work. Ralph On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Jim Rea wrote: > Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. -- ------------------------------------------------- Ralph Strauch, Ph.D., Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner "Composing Experience" blog Author of "Low-Stress Computing, Using awareness to avoid RSI" and "The Reality Illusion: How you make the world you experience," ------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidshipman at fedcoseeds.com Fri Feb 3 11:24:37 2012 From: davidshipman at fedcoseeds.com ('david shipman') Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:24:37 -0500 Subject: Setting up a Panorama Server Message-ID: <2f73fbb5d08e29ae38a139313e941643a1b3a344@sitemail.hostway.com> Our business has two locations connected by a virtual private network. We have panorama enterprise servers in one both locations. We've been able to connect from one location to the a server in the other location by http through the virtual network. Recently we added a second server to one location and thought we set it up correctly to allow for internet connections. The server works fine on the local network, but we are unable to connect to the server via http. This is the message we get when trying to add the server with the available servers wizard: status="Panorama Server ?http://192.168.1.143? is not responding." The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, ?you at example.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Any hints or clues to the misconfiguration would be appreciated. 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To set up the VM you do need a version of SL that runs on your current machine; if you have a relatively new computer the original SL install disk won't work. I used the SL restore disk that came with my computer then ran updates to that system. I imagine a current clone might also work. > > Ralph > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Jim Rea wrote: > >> Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > Ralph Strauch, Ph.D., Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner > "Composing Experience" blog > Author of "Low-Stress Computing, Using awareness to avoid RSI" > and "The Reality Illusion: How you make the world you experience," > > ------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -- ------------------------------------------------- Ralph Strauch, Ph.D., Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner "Composing Experience" blog Author of "Low-Stress Computing, Using awareness to avoid RSI" and "The Reality Illusion: How you make the world you experience," ------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim at JamesCook.biz Fri Feb 3 12:56:00 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:56:00 -0500 Subject: Setting up a Panorama Server In-Reply-To: <2f73fbb5d08e29ae38a139313e941643a1b3a344@sitemail.hostway.com> References: <2f73fbb5d08e29ae38a139313e941643a1b3a344@sitemail.hostway.com> Message-ID: Your wording makes it unclear as to whether the servers are the same location or not. If they're at the same location and on the same internet connection, you may have trouble routing to two separate machines. If the second is in a separate location though, I get the impression you haven't set the port forwarding in your router. 192.168.1.143 is an internal IP address and not at all likely to be the one you need to use for outside connections. On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:24 PM, david shipman wrote: > Our business has two locations connected by a virtual private network. We have panorama enterprise servers in one both locations. We've been able to connect from one location to the a server in the other location by http through the virtual network. Recently we added a second server to one location and thought we set it up correctly to allow for internet connections. The server works fine on the local network, but we are unable to connect to the server via http. This is the message we get when trying to add the server with the available servers wizard: > status="Panorama Server ?http://192.168.1.143? is not responding." > The server encountered an internal error or > misconfiguration and was unable to complete > your request. > Please contact the server administrator, > you at example.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, > and anything you might have done that may have > caused the error. > More information about this error may be available > in the server error log. > > Any hints or clues to the misconfiguration would be appreciated. > David Shipman Organic Growers Supply Fedco Seeds PO Box 520 Waterville ME 04903 www.fedcoseeds.com 207-430-1107 ext. 111 phone 207-692-1022 fax > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From j.franzen at verizon.net Fri Feb 3 12:03:05 2012 From: j.franzen at verizon.net (James Franzen) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:03:05 -0500 Subject: playsound Message-ID: <4B6915EA-BCCE-4546-8D65-7EF62FDF9085@verizon.net> I have an activation button on a form that calls for a procedure (using PAN 6.0.0): OpenSound "Applause" PlaySound "Applause" If the audio file is a System 7 kind, the sound "Applause" plays. The audio file is entitled Applause (no extension) If it is mp3 or mp4 or wave or ma4 or maybe of any other type (again with no extension in its title) I get an error " -####" message. System 7 files are rather "old-fashioned" I guess. I cannot open them with Amadeus on my OS-10.7 Mac. However, they will open with an earlier version of Amadeus on my OS-10.6 Mac. Anyway, my question is whether it is possible to have the opensound and playsound commands work with audio files other than of the System 7 format. 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You could use a variable for the FASO's formula, put the path to your file in the variable, do a ShowVariables for that variable, and then SuperObject "My FASO", "Play" You would substitute the actual name of the FASO for "My FASO" Dave ________________________________ From: James Franzen [j.franzen at verizon.net] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:03 PM To: PANORAMA QUESTIONS & ANSWERS (DISCUSSION) Subject: playsound I have an activation button on a form that calls for a procedure (using PAN 6.0.0): OpenSound "Applause" PlaySound "Applause" If the audio file is a System 7 kind, the sound "Applause" plays. The audio file is entitled Applause (no extension) If it is mp3 or mp4 or wave or ma4 or maybe of any other type (again with no extension in its title) I get an error " -####" message. System 7 files are rather "old-fashioned" I guess. I cannot open them with Amadeus on my OS-10.7 Mac. However, they will open with an earlier version of Amadeus on my OS-10.6 Mac. Anyway, my question is whether it is possible to have the opensound and playsound commands work with audio files other than of the System 7 format. Jim Franzen j.franzen at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.franzen at verizon.net Fri Feb 3 13:50:24 2012 From: j.franzen at verizon.net (James Franzen) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:50:24 -0500 Subject: playsound In-Reply-To: References: <4B6915EA-BCCE-4546-8D65-7EF62FDF9085@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3051B587-015D-45FF-B224-E5D8AFF46F4B@verizon.net> Dave: Thanks for your response. I have to "play" around with this. Is this another case of progress is regress? Oh for the good old days. Jim Franzen j.franzen at verizon.net On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > PlaySound is strictly for the old fashion sound resources. Many of the newer sound files can be played in a Flash Art SuperObject. You could use a variable for the FASO's formula, put the path to your file in the variable, do a ShowVariables for that variable, and then > > SuperObject "My FASO", "Play" > > You would substitute the actual name of the FASO for "My FASO" > > Dave > From: James Franzen [j.franzen at verizon.net] > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:03 PM > To: PANORAMA QUESTIONS & ANSWERS (DISCUSSION) > Subject: playsound > > I have an activation button on a form that calls for a procedure (using PAN 6.0.0): > > OpenSound "Applause" > PlaySound "Applause" > > If the audio file is a System 7 kind, the sound "Applause" plays. The audio file is entitled Applause (no extension) > If it is mp3 or mp4 or wave or ma4 or maybe of any other type (again with no extension in its title) I get an error " -####" message. > > System 7 files are rather "old-fashioned" I guess. I cannot open them with Amadeus on my OS-10.7 Mac. However, they will open with an earlier version of Amadeus on my OS-10.6 Mac. > > Anyway, my question is whether it is possible to have the opensound and playsound commands work with audio files other than of the System 7 format. > > Jim Franzen > j.franzen at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Fri Feb 3 11:24:43 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:24:43 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> Message-ID: Software support has a limited lifetime too, that's why Apple dropping Rosetta got us here in the first place. On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Ralph Strauch wrote: > Virtualbox will support a Snow Leopard virtual machine that might have greater longevity than a 10.6 hard drive. To set up the VM you do need a version of SL that runs on your current machine; if you have a relatively new computer the original SL install disk won't work. I used the SL restore disk that came with my computer then ran updates to that system. I imagine a current clone might also work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Fri Feb 3 12:28:25 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 12:28:25 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> Message-ID: Actually, I just bought a new MacBook Pro. It replaces a white Macbook Unibody. I'll dedicate that to be my Snow Leopard/Rosetta machine. By the time it dies, I probably won't care. ;-) On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Jim Rea wrote: > Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Fri Feb 3 12:33:23 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 12:33:23 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> Message-ID: <897E469E-78CE-4916-B980-92728BA8F02D@aol.com> I figured that out pretty easily. I downloaded VirtualBox, installed it, and when I double-click on it, nothing happens, even after a restart I'll keep trying. On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Ralph Strauch wrote: > That url should be . I had it wrong in my draft and though I corrected it, but the rich text formatting kept the .com url underneath where I couldn't see it. > > Ralph > > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Ralph Strauch wrote: > >> Virtualbox will support a Snow Leopard virtual machine that might have greater longevity than a 10.6 hard drive. To set up the VM you do need a version of SL that runs on your current machine; if you have a relatively new computer the original SL install disk won't work. I used the SL restore disk that came with my computer then ran updates to that system. I imagine a current clone might also work. >> >> Ralph >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Jim Rea wrote: >> >>> Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Ralph Strauch, Ph.D., Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner >> "Composing Experience" blog >> Author of "Low-Stress Computing, Using awareness to avoid RSI" >> and "The Reality Illusion: How you make the world you experience," >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > Ralph Strauch, Ph.D., Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner > "Composing Experience" blog > Author of "Low-Stress Computing, Using awareness to avoid RSI" > and "The Reality Illusion: How you make the world you experience," > > ------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Fri Feb 3 13:57:37 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:57:37 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> Message-ID: <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Ralph Strauch wrote: > Virtualbox will support a Snow Leopard virtual machine that might have greater longevity than a 10.6 hard drive. To set up the VM you do need a version of SL that runs on your current machine; if you have a relatively new computer the original SL install disk won't work. I used the SL restore disk that came with my computer then ran updates to that system. I imagine a current clone might also work. > > Ralph > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Jim Rea wrote: > >> Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > Ralph Strauch, Ph.D., Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner > "Composing Experience" blog > Author of "Low-Stress Computing, Using awareness to avoid RSI" > and "The Reality Illusion: How you make the world you experience," > > ------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstrauch at somatic.com Fri Feb 3 15:10:10 2012 From: rstrauch at somatic.com (Ralph Strauch) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:10:10 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <897E469E-78CE-4916-B980-92728BA8F02D@aol.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <897E469E-78CE-4916-B980-92728BA8F02D@aol.com> Message-ID: It's been a while since I did it, but I do remember that it turned out to be a bit more complicated than setting up a Windows VM. Thinking back, it seems to me that I had to first set up and format a blank HFS+ disk, then install SL as a separate second step, then run the 10.6.8 combo updater. Ralph On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: > I figured that out pretty easily. I downloaded VirtualBox, installed it, and when I double-click on it, nothing happens, even after a restart > > I'll keep trying. > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Ralph Strauch wrote: > >> That url should be . I had it wrong in my draft and though I corrected it, but the rich text formatting kept the .com url underneath where I couldn't see it. >> >> Ralph >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Ralph Strauch wrote: >> >>> Virtualbox will support a Snow Leopard virtual machine that might have greater longevity than a 10.6 hard drive. To set up the VM you do need a version of SL that runs on your current machine; if you have a relatively new computer the original SL install disk won't work. I used the SL restore disk that came with my computer then ran updates to that system. I imagine a current clone might also work. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Jim Rea wrote: >>> >>>> Keeping a copy of 10.6 around is a good idea, but will only work as long as you have your current machine. Someday that machine will quit working, and then 10.6 isn't going to work any more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at yonaites.com Fri Feb 3 16:28:02 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:28:02 -0700 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> Message-ID: VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some access to these original files as far into the future as possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade to that. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: > I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. > > As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. > > The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vic at mac.com Fri Feb 3 15:43:38 2012 From: vic at mac.com (Vic Glassley) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:43:38 -0800 Subject: Updated Version? Message-ID: Any idea when we will see the updated version of Panorama that fixes the deleting a column with data in it problem? It looks like a lot of things have been fixed /added since version 6.0.0 Build 92277 from July 12th, 2010 that would be nice to use. If I?m correct Build 92277 was the last one that warned before deleting a column with data in it. Thanks, Vic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Fri Feb 3 17:19:50 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:19:50 -0800 Subject: Updated Version? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I need to submit my updated Stock Quotation stuff. What I was using stopped working yesterday, but I think I have fixed it. This is an expanded version that adds a bunch more information. Bruce De Benedictis > Any idea when we will see the updated version of Panorama that fixes the > deleting a column with data in it problem? It looks like a lot of things > have been fixed /added since version 6.0.0 Build 92277 from July 12th, 2010 > that would be nice to use. If I?m correct Build 92277 was the last one that > warned before deleting a column with data in it. > Thanks, > Vic > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From wahib at gsc2000.com Fri Feb 3 17:30:23 2012 From: wahib at gsc2000.com (Wahib Afyouni) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 05:30:23 +0400 Subject: Updated Version? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <051EAFC1-C9E1-4B9B-BBB4-3675597D2376@gsc2000.com> Mine is 6.0.0 build 94356. On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Vic Glassley wrote: > Any idea when we will see the updated version of Panorama that fixes the deleting a column with data in it problem? It looks like a lot of things have been fixed /added since version 6.0.0 Build 92277 from July 12th, 2010 that would be nice to use. If I?m correct Build 92277 was the last one that warned before deleting a column with data in it. > Thanks, > Vic > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Fri Feb 3 18:14:32 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:14:32 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> Message-ID: Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no longer available. Jim On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 in > virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that route > since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas > before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF > but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some > access to these original files as far into the future as possible. I cloned > my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow Leopard virtual > volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade to that. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: > > I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder > in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like > the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. > > As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just > like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. > > The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Fri Feb 3 17:34:55 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:34:55 -0800 Subject: Updated Version? In-Reply-To: <051EAFC1-C9E1-4B9B-BBB4-3675597D2376@gsc2000.com> References: <051EAFC1-C9E1-4B9B-BBB4-3675597D2376@gsc2000.com> Message-ID: <1F29E988-4A9D-439A-A207-7EDAF4F65D40@aol.com> Jim's using a newer version and I have no idea why he hasn't released it, it's been over a year since the 6.0.0 release. On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Wahib Afyouni wrote: > Mine is 6.0.0 build 94356. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kjmeyer at mac.com Fri Feb 3 18:19:53 2012 From: kjmeyer at mac.com (Kurt J. Meyer) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:19:53 +0100 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86D05C09-8FBE-4211-A720-4F477ADC8DD5@mac.com> Am 02.02.2012 um 21:20 schrieb Jim Rea: > Did you just install the new security patch from Apple? That is the exact symptom other users of Rosetta applications are reporting (for Quicken, Microsoft Office 2004, etc.) > > At this point you either need to restore your system from a backup, or upgrade to Panorama 6. Apple has released a new 1.1 version of the security patch, which should solve the Rosetta problems. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Fri Feb 3 18:55:23 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:55:23 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> Message-ID: <7E448A71-3479-4228-93C7-5989F45CB08D@aol.com> Canvas is the one that's holding me back too. On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > I'm thinking of going that route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some access to these original files as far into the future as possible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 06:44:00 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 07:44:00 -0700 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> Message-ID: <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> That seems strange in as much as their web site is still showing support for OS X 10.6.x up to 10.6.8 as a "Guest OS" with both 32 and 64 bit. This is listed under Fusion 4.1 but I may be missing something in my interpretation of their pages or they have not updated them properly. I guess at worst I would have to boot from my old cloned 10.6.8 drive if I need to run that version of the system software for use with my outdated Canvas. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no longer available. > > Jim > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some access to these original files as far into the future as possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade to that. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: > >> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. >> >> As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. >> >> The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at gomiddleton.com Sat Feb 4 08:38:33 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 11:38:33 -0500 Subject: TESO Procedures Message-ID: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> Is there a way to attach more than one procedure to a TESO? I would like 1 procedure to be triggered when a person tabs or clicks in the TESO and another procedure when they are finished editing. Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 09:07:21 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 10:07:21 -0700 Subject: TESO Procedures In-Reply-To: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> References: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> Just use one procedure with info("keyboard") to see which key triggered the procedure and branch from there. Case info("keyboard") =chr(9) message "Tab" Case info("keyboard") =chr(3) message "Enter" DefaultCase message "Click" EndCase Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Steve Middleton wrote: > Is there a way to attach more than one procedure to a TESO? > > I would like 1 procedure to be triggered when a person tabs or clicks in the TESO and another procedure when they are finished editing. > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From steve at gomiddleton.com Sat Feb 4 09:20:03 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:20:03 -0500 Subject: TESO Procedures In-Reply-To: <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> References: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <1969448E-CB4C-4D2A-A219-2072416D6B57@gomiddleton.com> Thank you for the suggestion Gary. I entered your example in a procedure and it is generating the error "Cannot compile procedure - one or more incorrect steps." Here is the code. Case info("Keyboard") =CHR(9) message "Tab" Case info("Keyboard") =CHR(3) message "Enter" DefaultCase message "Click" EndCase Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Just use one procedure with info("keyboard") to see which key triggered the procedure and branch from there. > > Case info("keyboard") =chr(9) > message "Tab" > Case info("keyboard") =chr(3) > message "Enter" > DefaultCase > message "Click" > EndCase > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Steve Middleton wrote: > >> Is there a way to attach more than one procedure to a TESO? >> >> I would like 1 procedure to be triggered when a person tabs or clicks in the TESO and another procedure when they are finished editing. >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve Middleton >> Middleton Printing >> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >> >> 616-247-8742 >> >> http://www.goMiddleton.com >> >> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From steve at gomiddleton.com Sat Feb 4 09:23:55 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:23:55 -0500 Subject: TESO Procedures In-Reply-To: <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> References: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> Message-ID: I retyped it and it works now. Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Just use one procedure with info("keyboard") to see which key triggered the procedure and branch from there. > > Case info("keyboard") =chr(9) > message "Tab" > Case info("keyboard") =chr(3) > message "Enter" > DefaultCase > message "Click" > EndCase > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Steve Middleton wrote: > >> Is there a way to attach more than one procedure to a TESO? >> >> I would like 1 procedure to be triggered when a person tabs or clicks in the TESO and another procedure when they are finished editing. >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve Middleton >> Middleton Printing >> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >> >> 616-247-8742 >> >> http://www.goMiddleton.com >> >> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From steve at gomiddleton.com Sat Feb 4 09:26:10 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:26:10 -0500 Subject: TESO Procedures In-Reply-To: <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> References: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <6AA93249-496C-415C-9E03-A6B0CA822877@gomiddleton.com> Ok, So how would I apply this technique to trigger 1 procedure when the user enters the TESO and another one when they exit the TESO? They will either click or tab to enter or click or tab to exit. Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Just use one procedure with info("keyboard") to see which key triggered the procedure and branch from there. > > Case info("keyboard") =chr(9) > message "Tab" > Case info("keyboard") =chr(3) > message "Enter" > DefaultCase > message "Click" > EndCase > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Steve Middleton wrote: > >> Is there a way to attach more than one procedure to a TESO? >> >> I would like 1 procedure to be triggered when a person tabs or clicks in the TESO and another procedure when they are finished editing. >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve Middleton >> Middleton Printing >> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >> >> 616-247-8742 >> >> http://www.goMiddleton.com >> >> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 11:49:40 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:49:40 -0700 Subject: TESO Procedures In-Reply-To: <6AA93249-496C-415C-9E03-A6B0CA822877@gomiddleton.com> References: <4880BBDB-0181-4D83-A369-C745D7004FCF@gomiddleton.com> <28A17296-1618-4351-BF25-508142F5B7D5@yonaites.com> <6AA93249-496C-415C-9E03-A6B0CA822877@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: In the TESO setup dialog there is a check box for "Focus". If this is checked it will run the attached procedure when the TESO is activated or is in focus and info("trigger") will contain the word "Focus" followed by a period and the name you have given the TESO (or "Tex Editor" as default). Your procedure can then check for this to see if you are dealing with an entry or exit to or from the TESO. At this point you could simply call the desired procedure or branch off and handle everything all in this one procedure. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Steve Middleton wrote: > Ok, > > So how would I apply this technique to trigger 1 procedure when the user enters the TESO and another one when they exit the TESO? > > They will either click or tab to enter or click or tab to exit. > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > >> Just use one procedure with info("keyboard") to see which key triggered the procedure and branch from there. >> >> Case info("keyboard") =chr(9) >> message "Tab" >> Case info("keyboard") =chr(3) >> message "Enter" >> DefaultCase >> message "Click" >> EndCase >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Steve Middleton wrote: >> >>> Is there a way to attach more than one procedure to a TESO? >>> >>> I would like 1 procedure to be triggered when a person tabs or clicks in the TESO and another procedure when they are finished editing. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Steve Middleton >>> Middleton Printing >>> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >>> >>> 616-247-8742 >>> >>> http://www.goMiddleton.com >>> >>> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >>> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From steve at gomiddleton.com Sat Feb 4 12:06:37 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:06:37 -0500 Subject: ObjectInfo("type") Message-ID: Is there a an option that will return a Text Display Super Object? I do not see this in the Panorama Reference record for ObjectInfo(). Here is the code that I attempted but is generating an error. x=1 selectobjects objectinfo("type") contains "Text Display" Loop objectnumber x stoploopif (not info("found")) objectVariables=objectVariables+objectinfo("#FORMULA")+"," x=x+1 while forever Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. From jim at provue.com Sat Feb 4 12:36:31 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:36:31 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> Message-ID: I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I do know there was quite a bit of fuss about this on the Mac "blogosphere" both at the time this started working, and then again a week or two later when a new release killed the feature. So my guess is there web site is incorrect, but I would love to be proved wrong. Ok, according to Wikipedia this feature was available for 6 days or so, from Nov 17 to Nov 23, 2011. They link to this page on the VMWare site which explains that it will only work with Snow Leopard Server, not Snow Leopard. http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=2009990 So unless you snagged a copy of VMWare in that 6 day period, or have a copy of Snow Leopard Server, I think you may be out of luck. Jim On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > That seems strange in as much as their web site is still showing support > for OS X 10.6.x up to 10.6.8 as a "Guest OS" with both 32 and 64 bit. This > is listed under Fusion 4.1 but I may be missing something in my > interpretation of their pages or they have not updated them properly. I > guess at worst I would have to boot from my old cloned 10.6.8 drive if I > need to run that version of the system software for use with my outdated > Canvas. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > > Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with > regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some > people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if > Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no > longer available. > > Jim > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > >> VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 >> in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that >> route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of >> Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF >> and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still >> have some access to these original files as far into the future as >> possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow >> Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade >> to that. >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: >> >> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder >> in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like >> the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. >> >> As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just >> like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. >> >> The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 14:02:32 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:02:32 -0700 Subject: ObjectInfo("type") In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B7EA7FC-6829-463F-A8A8-D32C49BB6651@yonaites.com> Steve, I tried your code and it worked fine at this end. You might want to change objectinfo("type") contains "Text Display" to objectinfo("type") = "SuperObject:Text Display". This will eliminate the possibility of selecting something other than a Text Display SuperObject. What error are you getting returned? Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: > Is there a an option that will return a Text Display Super Object? > > I do not see this in the Panorama Reference record for ObjectInfo(). > > Here is the code that I attempted but is generating an error. > > x=1 > selectobjects objectinfo("type") contains "Text Display" > Loop > objectnumber x > stoploopif (not info("found")) > objectVariables=objectVariables+objectinfo("#FORMULA")+"," > x=x+1 > while forever > > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 14:12:25 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:12:25 -0700 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> Too bad. Now I have less interest in upgrading to OS X 10.7 or any need for VMware Fusion. At some point in the future I'll have to bite the bullet and make the change but not right now. I've tried a few vector/CAD programs but can't find anything that was as complete for my needs as Canvas was (even with the many bugs and glitches.) They still make it for the PC but I refuse to travel that road. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I do know there was quite a bit of fuss about this on the Mac "blogosphere" both at the time this started working, and then again a week or two later when a new release killed the feature. So my guess is there web site is incorrect, but I would love to be proved wrong. > > Ok, according to Wikipedia this feature was available for 6 days or so, from Nov 17 to Nov 23, 2011. They link to this page on the VMWare site which explains that it will only work with Snow Leopard Server, not Snow Leopard. > > http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=2009990 > > So unless you snagged a copy of VMWare in that 6 day period, or have a copy of Snow Leopard Server, I think you may be out of luck. > > Jim > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > That seems strange in as much as their web site is still showing support for OS X 10.6.x up to 10.6.8 as a "Guest OS" with both 32 and 64 bit. This is listed under Fusion 4.1 but I may be missing something in my interpretation of their pages or they have not updated them properly. I guess at worst I would have to boot from my old cloned 10.6.8 drive if I need to run that version of the system software for use with my outdated Canvas. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > >> Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no longer available. >> >> Jim >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >> VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some access to these original files as far into the future as possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade to that. >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: >> >>> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. >>> >>> As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. >>> >>> The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From designer at quickdata.com Sat Feb 4 14:59:53 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:59:53 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <4F2DB869.6060604@quickdata.com> No true Mac Fan wants to travel that road. However, you can get a used PC (computergeeks.com) way cheap. And then you have a "real" PC for testing your windows intended. It removes one layer of complexity (FusionVM, Parallels, BootCamp) and is the actual environment your customers have. I own both FusionVM and Parallels. But because I couldn't afford a real fast Mac it was just simpler to run WinPan on a cheap PC. Paul QuickData On 2/4/12 2:12 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Too bad. Now I have less interest in upgrading to OS X 10.7 or any > need for VMware Fusion. At some point in the future I'll have to bite > the bullet and make the change but not right now. I've tried a few > vector/CAD programs but can't find anything that was as complete for > my needs as Canvas was (even with the many bugs and glitches.) They > still make it for the PC but I refuse to travel that road. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Sat Feb 4 15:04:56 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:04:56 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> Message-ID: I have heard reports that Oracle's Virtual Box does not have this restriction, and better yet, it is free. Haven't tried it myself. Jim On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Too bad. Now I have less interest in upgrading to OS X 10.7 or any need > for VMware Fusion. At some point in the future I'll have to bite the bullet > and make the change but not right now. I've tried a few vector/CAD programs > but can't find anything that was as complete for my needs as Canvas was > (even with the many bugs and glitches.) They still make it for the PC but I > refuse to travel that road. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > > I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I do know there was quite a > bit of fuss about this on the Mac "blogosphere" both at the time this > started working, and then again a week or two later when a new release > killed the feature. So my guess is there web site is incorrect, but I would > love to be proved wrong. > > Ok, according to Wikipedia this feature was available for 6 days or so, > from Nov 17 to Nov 23, 2011. They link to this page on the VMWare site > which explains that it will only work with Snow Leopard Server, not Snow > Leopard. > > > http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=2009990 > > So unless you snagged a copy of VMWare in that 6 day period, or have a > copy of Snow Leopard Server, I think you may be out of luck. > > Jim > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > >> That seems strange in as much as their web site is still showing support >> for OS X 10.6.x up to 10.6.8 as a "Guest OS" with both 32 and 64 bit. This >> is listed under Fusion 4.1 but I may be missing something in my >> interpretation of their pages or they have not updated them properly. I >> guess at worst I would have to boot from my old cloned 10.6.8 drive if I >> need to run that version of the system software for use with my outdated >> Canvas. >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >> >> Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with >> regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some >> people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if >> Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no >> longer available. >> >> Jim >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >> >>> VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 >>> in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that >>> route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of >>> Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF >>> and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still >>> have some access to these original files as far into the future as >>> possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow >>> Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade >>> to that. >>> >>> Gary >>> gary at yonaites.com >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: >>> >>> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder >>> in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like >>> the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. >>> >>> As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just >>> like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. >>> >>> The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgallaghe at aol.com Sat Feb 4 13:22:11 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:22:11 -0800 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <38FD893C-D1DA-49A6-BD29-16199D2453AD@aol.com> It was more like a day or two: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57329027-263/vmware-4.1-lifts-block-on-snow-leopard-client-virtualization-updated/ I had recently bought Parallels Desktop to run Windows On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I do know there was quite a bit of fuss about this on the Mac "blogosphere" both at the time this started working, and then again a week or two later when a new release killed the feature. From alfred at seqair.com Sat Feb 4 15:00:48 2012 From: alfred at seqair.com (Alfred Scott) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:00:48 -0500 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <831AD297-7DFE-4B05-912B-A6651F87D07C@seqair.com> Gary, You might want to look at PowerCADD and WildTools (which I have written). It puts everything else in the world to shame. Alfred On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Too bad. Now I have less interest in upgrading to OS X 10.7 or any need for VMware Fusion. At some point in the future I'll have to bite the bullet and make the change but not right now. I've tried a few vector/CAD programs but can't find anything that was as complete for my needs as Canvas was (even with the many bugs and glitches.) They still make it for the PC but I refuse to travel that road. > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > >> I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I do know there was quite a bit of fuss about this on the Mac "blogosphere" both at the time this started working, and then again a week or two later when a new release killed the feature. So my guess is there web site is incorrect, but I would love to be proved wrong. >> >> Ok, according to Wikipedia this feature was available for 6 days or so, from Nov 17 to Nov 23, 2011. They link to this page on the VMWare site which explains that it will only work with Snow Leopard Server, not Snow Leopard. >> >> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=2009990 >> >> So unless you snagged a copy of VMWare in that 6 day period, or have a copy of Snow Leopard Server, I think you may be out of luck. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >> That seems strange in as much as their web site is still showing support for OS X 10.6.x up to 10.6.8 as a "Guest OS" with both 32 and 64 bit. This is listed under Fusion 4.1 but I may be missing something in my interpretation of their pages or they have not updated them properly. I guess at worst I would have to boot from my old cloned 10.6.8 drive if I need to run that version of the system software for use with my outdated Canvas. >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >> >>> Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no longer available. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >>> VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some access to these original files as far into the future as possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade to that. >>> >>> Gary >>> gary at yonaites.com >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: >>> >>>> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. >>>> >>>> As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. >>>> >>>> The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 16:03:48 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 17:03:48 -0700 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <4F2DB869.6060604@quickdata.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> <4F2DB869.6060604@quickdata.com> Message-ID: <89AC2840-0C0F-4506-B762-21A708275FAF@yonaites.com> Thanks Paul, I actually have an older Windows machine that belonged to my wife but I hate to use it very much. To get the PC version of Canvas I would have to start from scratch and not a simple upgrade to the current version and that would cost me $600 which I don't want to spend. I'm trying to transition to TurboCAD Mac Deluxe for the vector things I do and Photoshop for other things along with paint programs. Most of this I was able to do with Canvas alone even though I often did work in Photoshop and imported into Canvas for my use. I'll adjust to the current ways. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Paul wrote: > No true Mac Fan wants to travel that road. However, you can get a used PC (computergeeks.com) way cheap. And then you have a "real" PC for testing your windows intended. It removes one layer of complexity (FusionVM, Parallels, BootCamp) and is the actual environment your customers have. > > I own both FusionVM and Parallels. But because I couldn't afford a real fast Mac it was just simpler to run WinPan on a cheap PC. > > Paul > QuickData > > On 2/4/12 2:12 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >> >> Too bad. Now I have less interest in upgrading to OS X 10.7 or any need for VMware Fusion. At some point in the future I'll have to bite the bullet and make the change but not right now. I've tried a few vector/CAD programs but can't find anything that was as complete for my needs as Canvas was (even with the many bugs and glitches.) They still make it for the PC but I refuse to travel that road. >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at yonaites.com Sat Feb 4 16:13:30 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 17:13:30 -0700 Subject: Continuous crashing In-Reply-To: <831AD297-7DFE-4B05-912B-A6651F87D07C@seqair.com> References: <133CBEF0-B3BF-42ED-87C6-66D561252EB4@aol.com> <411912D2-6429-4EAF-ADF1-D61D8069FCC8@somatic.com> <73C0E46B-0736-4C48-8C28-691B75B868C8@aol.com> <1F6E686B-72D0-47F7-A396-F1464D8A925A@yonaites.com> <71C961B8-00FA-4849-BABD-76B905F5155F@yonaites.com> <831AD297-7DFE-4B05-912B-A6651F87D07C@seqair.com> Message-ID: Thanks Alfred, PowerCADD looks great but is well out of my single user budget. I'm not making any income currently with the things I'm doing with CAD software so I have to be realistic in my investments in tools like this. I already have TurboCADD and will adapt to that even though I'm not overly found of it so far. Maybe I'm just getting too old to make major changes without complaining. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Alfred Scott wrote: > Gary, > > You might want to look at PowerCADD and WildTools (which I have written). It puts everything else in the world to shame. > > Alfred > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > >> Too bad. Now I have less interest in upgrading to OS X 10.7 or any need for VMware Fusion. At some point in the future I'll have to bite the bullet and make the change but not right now. I've tried a few vector/CAD programs but can't find anything that was as complete for my needs as Canvas was (even with the many bugs and glitches.) They still make it for the PC but I refuse to travel that road. >> >> Gary >> gary at yonaites.com >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >> >>> I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I do know there was quite a bit of fuss about this on the Mac "blogosphere" both at the time this started working, and then again a week or two later when a new release killed the feature. So my guess is there web site is incorrect, but I would love to be proved wrong. >>> >>> Ok, according to Wikipedia this feature was available for 6 days or so, from Nov 17 to Nov 23, 2011. They link to this page on the VMWare site which explains that it will only work with Snow Leopard Server, not Snow Leopard. >>> >>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=2009990 >>> >>> So unless you snagged a copy of VMWare in that 6 day period, or have a copy of Snow Leopard Server, I think you may be out of luck. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >>> That seems strange in as much as their web site is still showing support for OS X 10.6.x up to 10.6.8 as a "Guest OS" with both 32 and 64 bit. This is listed under Fusion 4.1 but I may be missing something in my interpretation of their pages or they have not updated them properly. I guess at worst I would have to boot from my old cloned 10.6.8 drive if I need to run that version of the system software for use with my outdated Canvas. >>> >>> Gary >>> gary at yonaites.com >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jim Rea wrote: >>> >>>> Actually, that was a mistake or anomaly. The version which worked with regular OS X (not OS X Server) was only available for a week or so. Some people think it was a mistake, some people think they were trying to see if Apple would slap them down. Apple did slap them down, so that version is no longer available. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Gary Yonaites wrote: >>>> VMware Fusion recently came out with Fusion 4 which now supports 10.6.7 in virtualization and it lists for $49.99. I'm thinking of going that route since I have an awful lot of my work done using the last version of Canvas before they abandoned the Mac. I tried converting my work via PDF and DXF but it gets pretty mangled in the translation and I need to still have some access to these original files as far into the future as possible. I cloned my hard drive recently and plan to use that as my Snow Leopard virtual volume when I need it while running Tiger after I upgrade to that. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> gary at yonaites.com >>>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Steve Gallagher wrote: >>>> >>>>> I finally got it to load. After I first installed it, I created a folder in the Applications folder to hold the app and the user manual. Seems like the app wants to only run from the top level of the Applications folder. >>>>> >>>>> As far as I can tell, it will only virtualize Snow Leopard Server, just like the limitation in Parallels Desktop. >>>>> >>>>> The server version is $500, a hard drive to boot Snow Leopard is ~$100. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Qna mailing list >>>> Qna at provue.com >>>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Qna mailing list >>>> Qna at provue.com >>>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net Mon Feb 6 07:30:59 2012 From: samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net (Sam Rutherford) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:30:59 -0600 Subject: printing to pdf In-Reply-To: References: <67A2EB02-5BAE-440B-A929-A2D21C638BB6@musiccitymetals.net> Message-ID: Well that worked beautifully. I guess it's all easy if you know what you're doing! Thanks a lot. Sam ________________________________________________________________ On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > Try downloading my _PDFPrinting library from . Unzip it and place it in Panorama:Extensions:Libraries: and then re-launch Panorama if it's currently running. Once you have that library installed, you can try > > PDFSetup dsk+array(carray, n, ?) + '.pdf' > Print "" > > The first command will set it up so that Print "" will print a PDF using the Mac's built in PDF printing capability, not CUPS. > > After installation you can open the Custom Statements wizard, and choose the _PDFPrinting library, to see the complete documentation for this custom statement. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Sam Rutherford [samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:38 PM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: printing to pdf > > I have a procedure that prints a series of reports. It works fine if I'm printing to an actual printer. However it can't print to pdf. > > I've tried using > print "" > with the cups-pdf printer selected. > > I've also tried using > printpdf {path = folder(dsk) file = array(carray, n, ?) + '.pdf'} > and > printpdf (with no options specified) > both with the cups-pdf printer selected and with other printers selected. > > In all cases I get this error: > File "" or disk may be locked or busy. Unlock and try again. > > I can get a pdf manually, both with the cups printer and by choosing save as pdf in a print dialog, but I need to be able to get a batch of pdf's using the procedure. > > Thanks, > Sam > ________________________________________________________________ > Sam Rutherford > Music City Metals > 615/255-4481 > samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > ________________________________________________________________ Sam Rutherford Music City Metals 615/255-4481 samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net From vjdif at prodigy.net Tue Feb 7 12:04:01 2012 From: vjdif at prodigy.net (Vic DiFranco) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:04:01 -0600 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? Message-ID: <590242DE-16CF-41D3-A231-D223CEEAC8B6@prodigy.net> Hello Everybody, For some weird reason, my GETSTOCKQUOTE command has stopped working. Has this happened to anyone else? I edited the procedure as follows, and this works for me. The procedure is called GETNOWQUOTE, and is run as a subroutine. /* -------------------------------------------- GETNOWQUOTE Subroutine returns the current price of any equity. It requires 2 parameters. Parameter(1): the stock, fund, or index symbol Parameter(2): placeholder to return the result --------------------------------------------- */ debug Local YahooPage, quote loadurl YahooPage, "http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=" + parameter(1) quote = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker","",-1][2,-1] setparameter 2, quote RTN From peter at peterflintmusic.com Tue Feb 7 12:20:50 2012 From: peter at peterflintmusic.com (Peter Flint) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:20:50 -0500 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9BD2EF31-CCC4-4D6B-ADB0-F87AA39972FB@gmail.com> Yes, mine stopped working too. Hadn't noticed yet until you mentioned it since I only use it once or twice a month. I haven't tried your solution yet, but I'll give it a whirl. Have to admit I don't fully understand it since I'm only competent enough in Panorama to get myself into trouble. If there's an easier solution I'd love to hear it as well. Thanks, Peter NYC On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:04 PM, qna-request at provue.com wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > For some weird reason, my GETSTOCKQUOTE command has stopped working. > Has this happened to anyone else? > > I edited the procedure as follows, and this works for me. The > procedure is called GETNOWQUOTE, and is run as a subroutine. > /* -------------------------------------------- > GETNOWQUOTE Subroutine returns the current price of any equity. > It requires > 2 parameters. > > Parameter(1): the stock, fund, or index symbol > Parameter(2): placeholder to return the result > --------------------------------------------- > */ > debug > Local YahooPage, quote > loadurl YahooPage, "http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=" + parameter(1) > quote = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker"," quote = quote["->",-1][2,-1] > setparameter 2, quote > > RTN > > > ------------------------------ From devine at sonic.net Tue Feb 7 14:01:39 2012 From: devine at sonic.net (J.T. Devine) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:01:39 -0800 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: <590242DE-16CF-41D3-A231-D223CEEAC8B6@prodigy.net> References: <590242DE-16CF-41D3-A231-D223CEEAC8B6@prodigy.net> Message-ID: <08EEDE5C-997E-43C0-B99C-9D6662504CA5@sonic.net> Yes, I've been using GETSTOCKQUOTE only for a month or so as I only then discovered it, but it stopped working at the beginning of this month. I'm not clear, though, where this new code you sent below exactly goes. Subroutine to what? Thanks, J.T. Devine On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Vic DiFranco wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > For some weird reason, my GETSTOCKQUOTE command has stopped working. Has this happened to anyone else? > > I edited the procedure as follows, and this works for me. The procedure is called GETNOWQUOTE, and is run as a subroutine. > /* -------------------------------------------- > GETNOWQUOTE Subroutine returns the current price of any equity. It requires > 2 parameters. > > Parameter(1): the stock, fund, or index symbol > Parameter(2): placeholder to return the result > --------------------------------------------- > */ > debug > Local YahooPage, quote > loadurl YahooPage, "http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=" + parameter(1) > quote = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker"," quote = quote["->",-1][2,-1] > setparameter 2, quote > > RTN > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Tue Feb 7 14:54:15 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:54:15 -0800 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: <590242DE-16CF-41D3-A231-D223CEEAC8B6@prodigy.net> Message-ID: Yes, I have fixed it on mine. I have not posted it, because there are other additions I have made. I think I will combine the channel into the command. I can probably have a new version available within a week. The expanded version has additional parameters to return more data, but it is backwards compatible. It returns things like P/E ratio and yield, as well as the price. Bruce De Benedictis > Hello Everybody, > > For some weird reason, my GETSTOCKQUOTE command has stopped working. > Has this happened to anyone else? > > I edited the procedure as follows, and this works for me. The > procedure is called GETNOWQUOTE, and is run as a subroutine. > /* -------------------------------------------- > GETNOWQUOTE Subroutine returns the current price of any equity. > It requires > 2 parameters. > > Parameter(1): the stock, fund, or index symbol > Parameter(2): placeholder to return the result > --------------------------------------------- > */ > debug > Local YahooPage, quote > loadurl YahooPage, "http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=" + parameter(1) > quote = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker"," quote = quote["->",-1][2,-1] > setparameter 2, quote > > RTN > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From vjdif at prodigy.net Tue Feb 7 18:36:04 2012 From: vjdif at prodigy.net (Vic DiFranco) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:36:04 -0600 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? Message-ID: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> Hello Everybody, I think it will be easiest if most wait until Bruce De Benedictis updates his original command. That way, you can just continue using the command as you used to, and you won't have to change any procedures. By the way, that was a fine job you did, Bruce, in coming up with that command. It served as inspiration to my GETQUOTE routine, which returns a stock or fund price for any earlier date. As to J.T. Devine's question as to where the new code goes, I use a different method for Custom Commands and Custom Functions than the normal Panorama method. I don't really know how to write Panorama multi-line Custom items, so I proceed as follows: I have a dedicated database, called "Various Macros", which contains no data - it only contains macros. Those are my "Custom" commands or "Custom" functions. When I want to call a custom command or custom function, I use {Farcall, "Various Macros", ?macroName?, ...} in the procedure I am writing, instead of just "macroName" if it were a regular Panorama custom macro. You can also include arguments to pass along data to the custom macro, and by using the Setparameter command in the custom macro, you can return variables to the calling procedure, just like a function. I find this method is much easier to write and to troubleshoot, because it is so normal. Everything works as it should with Panorama macros. And, Custom Functions can do so much more - you can open other databases, manipulate the data, even interrupt a Custom Function with a GETTEXT command for more data, etc. Every Panorama command is available to you. Then, using the Setparameter command, return the desired variable to the calling procedure. And single- stepping through is a cinch, just like a normal Panorama macro. And I always know where the custom commands and functions are - safely stored and accessible in the "Various Macros" database. This is obviously very subjective, but I find this method more intuitive, and easier than the Panorama custom method. Maybe it's just that I don't fully understand the Panorama method sufficiently. Regards, Vic DiFranco From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Tue Feb 7 21:27:26 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 05:27:26 +0000 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> References: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> Message-ID: You may understand custom statements better than you think. Take your "Various Macros" database and change the names of the procedures, so that all the letters in the procedure's name are upper case and there aren't any spaces in the names, then add a ..CloseDatabase procedure with the one command CloseWindowKeepSecret and presto, you have your own custom statement library. Put it in Panorama:Extensions:Libraries: and you're good to go. When Panorama launches, it will OpenSecret all the databases it finds in that folder. Then it will list all the procedures that follow the naming rules, and register them. When you write macroName Parameter1, Parameter2 or MACROname Parameter1, Parameter2 etc. Panorama will compile that statement as if you had written FarCall "Various Macros", MACRONAME, Parameter1, Parameter2 When that statement is executed, it will be just like any other FarCall, because it is just another FarCall. Ideally, procedures that are used as custom statements should contain a procedure information block (see page 296 of Formulas & Programming.pdf) but that's not a requirement. If you have one, the statement will be documented in the Custom Statements wizard, and if you use that statement in a procedure, but write it with the wrong number of parameters, an error check will tell you that. Multi-line custom functions are procedures that are called by a call( function. You use the Custom Functions (User) wizard to create a custom function that uses the call( function as its formula. The procedure it calls will normally be placed in a custom statement library to take advantage of the automatic OpenSecret when Panorama launches. If you don't want the procedure to double as a custom statement, you would include some lower case letters in its name to keep it from being registered as one. Procedures that are called by the call( function run as handler procedures, with the limitations that go with that. On the other hand, as functions, they can be placed in places a custom statement (FarCall) can't, such as formulas in form objects, or the formula in statements like FormulaFill, Select, ArrayBuild, ArrayFilter etc. Dave ________________________________________ From: Vic DiFranco [vjdif at prodigy.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:36 PM To: qna at provue.com Subject: Another GETQUOTE? I don't really know how to write Panorama multi-line Custom items, so I proceed as follows: I have a dedicated database, called "Various Macros", which contains no data - it only contains macros. Those are my "Custom" commands or "Custom" functions. When I want to call a custom command or custom function, I use {Farcall, "Various Macros", ?macroName?, ...} in the procedure I am writing, instead of just "macroName" if it were a regular Panorama custom macro. You can also include arguments to pass along data to the custom macro, and by using the Setparameter command in the custom macro, you can return variables to the calling procedure, just like a function. I find this method is much easier to write and to troubleshoot, because it is so normal. Everything works as it should with Panorama macros. And, Custom Functions can do so much more - you can open other databases, manipulate the data, even interrupt a Custom Function with a GETTEXT command for more data, etc. Every Panorama command is available to you. Then, using the Setparameter command, return the desired variable to the calling procedure. And single- stepping through is a cinch, just like a normal Panorama macro. And I always know where the custom commands and functions are - safely stored and accessible in the "Various Macros" database. This is obviously very subjective, but I find this method more intuitive, and easier than the Panorama custom method. Maybe it's just that I don't fully understand the Panorama method sufficiently. From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Tue Feb 7 22:26:16 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:26:16 -0800 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> Message-ID: To get the module working, open the Channels Preference. Select the Stock Quote Channel, the Yahoo Page channel should show in the Description field. Double-click on the word "Description." The StockQuote_YahooPage channel module will open. Select the GetQuote procedure from the View menu. Change the third line to: tagfront = '_' +lower(parameter(1)) + '">' Change the next to last line to: QuoteValue = val(tagdata(YahooPage,tagfront,'',1)) You can go to the Data Sheet and choose Test This Module to make sure you have done everything correctly. If it works, returning a non-zero number for a good symbol, save the module and close it. Bruce De Benedictis From mark at abernackie.com Wed Feb 8 04:39:44 2012 From: mark at abernackie.com (Mark Terry) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 07:39:44 -0500 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: References: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> Message-ID: <2EAFAA4E-B291-4008-8EC1-6182D75DF016@abernackie.com> You can also open the procedure window for most custom statements for viewing, editing and debugging by using Command-1 while the statement is selected in either the Online Programming Reference or Custom Statement Wizard. It's kind of fun to step through the code and see how it's structured to handle all the possibilities. M On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Thompson, David wrote: > You may understand custom statements better than you think. Take > your "Various Macros" database and change the names of the > procedures, so that all the letters in the procedure's name are > upper case and there aren't any spaces in the names, then add > a ..CloseDatabase procedure with the one command > > CloseWindowKeepSecret > > and presto, you have your own custom statement library. Put it in > Panorama:Extensions:Libraries: and you're good to go. When Panorama > launches, it will OpenSecret all the databases it finds in that > folder. Then it will list all the procedures that follow the naming > rules, and register them. > > When you write > > macroName Parameter1, Parameter2 > > or > > MACROname Parameter1, Parameter2 > > etc. > > Panorama will compile that statement as if you had written > > FarCall "Various Macros", MACRONAME, Parameter1, Parameter2 > > When that statement is executed, it will be just like any other > FarCall, because it is just another FarCall. > > Ideally, procedures that are used as custom statements should > contain a procedure information block (see page 296 of Formulas & > Programming.pdf) but that's not a requirement. If you have one, the > statement will be documented in the Custom Statements wizard, and if > you use that statement in a procedure, but write it with the wrong > number of parameters, an error check will tell you that. > > Multi-line custom functions are procedures that are called by a > call( function. You use the Custom Functions (User) wizard to create > a custom function that uses the call( function as its formula. The > procedure it calls will normally be placed in a custom statement > library to take advantage of the automatic OpenSecret when Panorama > launches. If you don't want the procedure to double as a custom > statement, you would include some lower case letters in its name to > keep it from being registered as one. Procedures that are called by > the call( function run as handler procedures, with the limitations > that go with that. On the other hand, as functions, they can be > placed in places a custom statement (FarCall) can't, such as > formulas in form objects, or the formula in statements like > FormulaFill, Select, ArrayBuild, ArrayFilter etc. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Vic DiFranco [vjdif at prodigy.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:36 PM > To: qna at provue.com > Subject: Another GETQUOTE? > > I don't really know how to write Panorama > multi-line Custom items, so I proceed as follows: > > I have a dedicated database, called "Various Macros", which > contains > no data - it only contains macros. Those are my "Custom" commands or > "Custom" functions. When I want to call a custom command or custom > function, I use {Farcall, "Various Macros", ?macroName?, ...} in the > procedure I am writing, instead of just "macroName" if it were a > regular Panorama custom macro. You can also include arguments to pass > along data to the custom macro, and by using the Setparameter command > in the custom macro, you can return variables to the calling > procedure, just like a function. > > I find this method is much easier to write and to troubleshoot, > because it is so normal. Everything works as it should with Panorama > macros. And, Custom Functions can do so much more - you can open > other databases, manipulate the data, even interrupt a Custom > Function with a GETTEXT command for more data, etc. Every Panorama > command is available to you. Then, using the Setparameter command, > return the desired variable to the calling procedure. And single- > stepping through is a cinch, just like a normal Panorama macro. And I > always know where the custom commands and functions are - safely > stored and accessible in the "Various Macros" database. > > This is obviously very subjective, but I find this method more > intuitive, and easier than the Panorama custom method. Maybe it's > just that I don't fully understand the Panorama method sufficiently. > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Wed Feb 8 05:31:30 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:31:30 +0000 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: <2EAFAA4E-B291-4008-8EC1-6182D75DF016@abernackie.com> References: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> , <2EAFAA4E-B291-4008-8EC1-6182D75DF016@abernackie.com> Message-ID: You can use the Programming Reference wizard with the custom statements that are provided by Provue. For those in your own personal custom statement library, or in a library that may have been given to you by someone else, that won't be true. For those, you can still use the Custom Statements wizard. In Programming Reference, you use Command-1 to open the procedure for editing. In the Custom Statements wizard, you double-click the name of the procedure in the Statements list. BTW I'm not advocating changing the "Various Macros" database into a custom statement library, because changing the names of those procedures would break existing procedures that are doing FarCalls to procedures with lower case letters in their names. I just wanted to point out that, if the naming convention had been followed from the beginning, that file could have been a custom statement library all along. Dave ________________________________________ From: Mark Terry [mark at abernackie.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:39 AM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: Another GETQUOTE? You can also open the procedure window for most custom statements for viewing, editing and debugging by using Command-1 while the statement is selected in either the Online Programming Reference or Custom Statement Wizard. It's kind of fun to step through the code and see how it's structured to handle all the possibilities. M On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Thompson, David wrote: > You may understand custom statements better than you think. Take > your "Various Macros" database and change the names of the > procedures, so that all the letters in the procedure's name are > upper case and there aren't any spaces in the names, then add > a ..CloseDatabase procedure with the one command > > CloseWindowKeepSecret > > and presto, you have your own custom statement library. Put it in > Panorama:Extensions:Libraries: and you're good to go. When Panorama > launches, it will OpenSecret all the databases it finds in that > folder. Then it will list all the procedures that follow the naming > rules, and register them. > > When you write > > macroName Parameter1, Parameter2 > > or > > MACROname Parameter1, Parameter2 > > etc. > > Panorama will compile that statement as if you had written > > FarCall "Various Macros", MACRONAME, Parameter1, Parameter2 > > When that statement is executed, it will be just like any other > FarCall, because it is just another FarCall. > > Ideally, procedures that are used as custom statements should > contain a procedure information block (see page 296 of Formulas & > Programming.pdf) but that's not a requirement. If you have one, the > statement will be documented in the Custom Statements wizard, and if > you use that statement in a procedure, but write it with the wrong > number of parameters, an error check will tell you that. > > Multi-line custom functions are procedures that are called by a > call( function. You use the Custom Functions (User) wizard to create > a custom function that uses the call( function as its formula. The > procedure it calls will normally be placed in a custom statement > library to take advantage of the automatic OpenSecret when Panorama > launches. If you don't want the procedure to double as a custom > statement, you would include some lower case letters in its name to > keep it from being registered as one. Procedures that are called by > the call( function run as handler procedures, with the limitations > that go with that. On the other hand, as functions, they can be > placed in places a custom statement (FarCall) can't, such as > formulas in form objects, or the formula in statements like > FormulaFill, Select, ArrayBuild, ArrayFilter etc. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Vic DiFranco [vjdif at prodigy.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:36 PM > To: qna at provue.com > Subject: Another GETQUOTE? > > I don't really know how to write Panorama > multi-line Custom items, so I proceed as follows: > > I have a dedicated database, called "Various Macros", which > contains > no data - it only contains macros. Those are my "Custom" commands or > "Custom" functions. When I want to call a custom command or custom > function, I use {Farcall, "Various Macros", ?macroName?, ...} in the > procedure I am writing, instead of just "macroName" if it were a > regular Panorama custom macro. You can also include arguments to pass > along data to the custom macro, and by using the Setparameter command > in the custom macro, you can return variables to the calling > procedure, just like a function. > > I find this method is much easier to write and to troubleshoot, > because it is so normal. Everything works as it should with Panorama > macros. And, Custom Functions can do so much more - you can open > other databases, manipulate the data, even interrupt a Custom > Function with a GETTEXT command for more data, etc. Every Panorama > command is available to you. Then, using the Setparameter command, > return the desired variable to the calling procedure. And single- > stepping through is a cinch, just like a normal Panorama macro. And I > always know where the custom commands and functions are - safely > stored and accessible in the "Various Macros" database. > > This is obviously very subjective, but I find this method more > intuitive, and easier than the Panorama custom method. Maybe it's > just that I don't fully understand the Panorama method sufficiently. > _______________________________________________ From peter at peterflintmusic.com Wed Feb 8 07:16:46 2012 From: peter at peterflintmusic.com (Peter Flint) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:16:46 -0500 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CE3B300-690C-4019-90C2-8B1CA26EF6CF@gmail.com> I have absolutely no understanding of what I just did, but I followed Bruce's instructions and GETQUOTE is working again! Hooray and thank you, Bruce!!! The only quirk is that there is still one stock code for which it doesn't return a number. I have a procedure that grabs the price for a portfolio of 50 or so stocks and drops it into the current market price field of each one. It works fine on every single one except Home Depot, HD. I'm inclined to think that this is some quirk of the server on Yahoo's side of things and I'll try again later today, but if anyone has any other ideas, let me know. Thanks, Peter NYC On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:39 AM, qna-request at provue.com wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:26:16 -0800 > From: Bruce De Benedictis > To: "Provue SEND via Mac.com!" > Subject: Re: Another GETQUOTE? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > To get the module working, open the Channels Preference. > > Select the Stock Quote Channel, the Yahoo Page channel should show in the > Description field. > > Double-click on the word "Description." The StockQuote_YahooPage channel > module will open. Select the GetQuote procedure from the View menu. > > Change the third line to: > > tagfront = '_' +lower(parameter(1)) + '">' > > Change the next to last line to: > > QuoteValue = val(tagdata(YahooPage,tagfront,'',1)) > > You can go to the Data Sheet and choose Test This Module to make sure you > have done everything correctly. If it works, returning a non-zero number for > a good symbol, save the module and close it. > > Bruce De Benedictis From BillArleneBush at cs.com Wed Feb 8 08:15:54 2012 From: BillArleneBush at cs.com (BillArleneBush at cs.com) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:15:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Another GETQUOTE? Message-ID: <48061.21b0ddf0.3c63f9ba@cs.com> In a message dated 2/7/12 12:05:45 PM, qna-request at provue.com writes: << For some weird reason, my GETSTOCKQUOTE command has stopped working. Has this happened to anyone else? >> ------------------------------------------- Saturday Feb. 4 the following code worked for me. It gave about 20 quotes including "^DJI" Bill Bush ************************************************** ActiveURL = "http://download.finance.yahoo.com/d/"+file +"?s="+ theSymbs + "&f=sl1d1hgv&e=.csv" loadURL TheData,ActiveURL DEBUG if TheData[-1,-1]=chr(10) TheData = replace(TheData,cr()+chr(10),"^"+cr()) Else TheData = replace(TheData ,cr(),"^"+cr()) Endif Local YahooPage,quote,lastDate loadurl YahooPage, "http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=^DJI" quote = tagdata(YahooPage,{},"",4) quote =replace(quote,sep,"") lastDate=array(array(TheData,2,?),3,sep) TheData= arraychange(TheData,quote+sep+lastDate,2,sep) From vjdif at prodigy.net Wed Feb 8 08:19:59 2012 From: vjdif at prodigy.net (Vic DiFranco) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:19:59 -0600 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? Message-ID: Dave Thompson wrote: ... Procedures that are called by the call( function run as handler procedures, with the limitations that go with that. On the other hand, as functions, they can be placed in places a custom statement (FarCall) can't, such as formulas in form objects, or the formula in statements like FormulaFill, Select, ArrayBuild, ArrayFilter etc. ---------------------------------- Hello Dave, An excellent summary of Custom statements and functions. I'll look into it further, and re-read the Handbook. I found the whole procedure very confusing the first time through. It's a little clearer now. Your point about the extra benefits of a Panorama Custom function (available in FormulaFill etc.) is a good one. Regards, Vic Difranco From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Wed Feb 8 08:39:14 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:39:14 -0800 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: <2CE3B300-690C-4019-90C2-8B1CA26EF6CF@gmail.com> Message-ID: I looked at the source for the page, and it should work. I have no idea what is wrong with HD. Another refinement I would like to add is looking up on another server if Yahoo does not work. Bruce De Benedictis > I have absolutely no understanding of what I just did, but I followed Bruce's > instructions and GETQUOTE is working again! > Hooray and thank you, Bruce!!! > > The only quirk is that there is still one stock code for which it doesn't > return a number. I have a procedure that grabs the price for a portfolio of 50 > or so stocks and drops it into the current market price field of each one. It > works fine on every single one except Home Depot, HD. > > I'm inclined to think that this is some quirk of the server on Yahoo's side of > things and I'll try again later today, but if anyone has any other ideas, let > me know. > > Thanks, > > Peter > NYC > > On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:39 AM, qna-request at provue.com wrote: > >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:26:16 -0800 >> From: Bruce De Benedictis >> To: "Provue SEND via Mac.com!" >> Subject: Re: Another GETQUOTE? >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII >> >> To get the module working, open the Channels Preference. >> >> Select the Stock Quote Channel, the Yahoo Page channel should show in the >> Description field. >> >> Double-click on the word "Description." The StockQuote_YahooPage channel >> module will open. Select the GetQuote procedure from the View menu. >> >> Change the third line to: >> >> tagfront = '_' +lower(parameter(1)) + '">' >> >> Change the next to last line to: >> >> QuoteValue = val(tagdata(YahooPage,tagfront,'',1)) >> >> You can go to the Data Sheet and choose Test This Module to make sure you >> have done everything correctly. If it works, returning a non-zero number for >> a good symbol, save the module and close it. >> >> Bruce De Benedictis > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From tapprint at tapprint.com Thu Feb 9 06:00:34 2012 From: tapprint at tapprint.com (Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:00:34 -0500 Subject: Upgrade!! Message-ID: <031ECE5E-7CD5-4645-98FD-BF26B9014C50@tapprint.com> Jim, Just a quick note that I have upgraded to Panorama 6-Build 94356 on our mac 10.6.8. I was hesitant because of the learning curve and the economy, however, it is great!! Tremendous flexibility!!! It fixed many of the issues that were troublesome, such as icons and crashing. Just wanted to pass this along because it does resolve many issues. Thank you, we love Panorama Tim Timothy A. Pray Tap Printing, Inc. Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 Warren, RI 02885 401-247-2188 Fax: 401-245-6270 tapprint at tapprint.com www.tapprint.com Please note: If this requires immediate attention please call my office. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rvenema at apartmentsstatecollege.com Thu Feb 9 07:44:59 2012 From: Rvenema at apartmentsstatecollege.com (Robert Venema) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:44:59 -0500 Subject: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 Message-ID: I am running Pan 5.5 on a mac mini intel with 10.5.8. Anytime we have multiple d.bases open Pan either freezes or altogether crashes. However I have been having this problem for some time now?.used to happen in 10.4.11 on both Mac Power PC's & Mac Intels. There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it. It happens in both old and brand new d.bases. I haven't found any command or set of actions that triggers it. I have tried rebuilding d.bases, uninstalling & reinstalling Pan, even reformatting entire computers all without avail. The problem reminds me of when Pan would crash due to the old "insufficient memory" problem- -back then we would fix that problem by allocating more memory to the program (not specific file) itself. Is still possible for that to occur? Does anyone have any ideas how to fix these problems and not just address the symptoms (i.e. Loss of data & productive work time)? Thanks for your help! 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URL: From jk at acaciasystems.com Thu Feb 9 08:15:56 2012 From: jk at acaciasystems.com (Jeff Kozuch) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:15:56 -0800 Subject: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5279BDDB-A4C7-47CC-A9E3-717FE302B646@acaciasystems.com> Robert, Have you allocated more memory to Pan 5.5? In the Panorama folder, you will find a file called "PanoramaPowerPC.INI". Double click it and it should open in TextEdit. Increase the memory in the first line, save and re-open Panorama. Good luck, Jeff Kozuch President, Acacia Systems Panorama Programming and Training Apple Certified Technical Coordinator Member, Apple Consultants Network jk at acaciasystems.com http://www.acaciasystems.com 562-437-7690 Jeff On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Robert Venema wrote: > I am running Pan 5.5 on a mac mini intel with 10.5.8. Anytime we > have multiple d.bases open Pan either freezes or altogether > crashes. However I have been having this problem for some time > now?.used to happen in 10.4.11 on both Mac Power PC's & Mac Intels. > > There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it. It happens > in both old and brand new d.bases. I haven't found any command or > set of actions that triggers it. I have tried rebuilding d.bases, > uninstalling & reinstalling Pan, even reformatting entire computers > all without avail. > > The problem reminds me of when Pan would crash due to the old > "insufficient memory" problem- -back then we would fix that problem > by allocating more memory to the program (not specific file) > itself. Is still possible for that to occur? > > Does anyone have any ideas how to fix these problems and not just > address the symptoms (i.e. Loss of data & productive work time)? > > Thanks for your help! > > Robert Venema > > Manager > Nevins Real Estate Management > 214 South Allen St. > State College, PA 16801 > Ph: (814) 238-3153 > Fax: (814) 238-8482 > Email: RVenema at ApartmentsStateCollege.com > http://www.ApartmentsStateCollege.com > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rvenema at apartmentsstatecollege.com Thu Feb 9 09:07:36 2012 From: Rvenema at apartmentsstatecollege.com (Robert Venema) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:07:36 -0500 Subject: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 In-Reply-To: <5279BDDB-A4C7-47CC-A9E3-717FE302B646@acaciasystems.com> Message-ID: Jeff, Thanks for the info. The memory was set to 96M?increased it to 500M. Not sure if this is enough or will do the trick but we'll see! Thanks again for your help and let me know if you have any further ideas! Rob From: Jeff Kozuch Reply-To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:15:56 -0800 To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" Subject: Re: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 Robert, Have you allocated more memory to Pan 5.5? In the Panorama folder, you will find a file called "PanoramaPowerPC.INI". Double click it and it should open in TextEdit. Increase the memory in the first line, save and re-open Panorama. Good luck, Jeff Kozuch President, Acacia Systems Panorama Programming and Training Apple Certified Technical Coordinator Member, Apple Consultants Network jk at acaciasystems.com http://www.acaciasystems.com 562-437-7690 Jeff On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Robert Venema wrote: > I am running Pan 5.5 on a mac mini intel with 10.5.8. Anytime we have > multiple d.bases open Pan either freezes or altogether crashes. However I > have been having this problem for some time now?.used to happen in 10.4.11 on > both Mac Power PC's & Mac Intels. > > There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it. It happens in both old > and brand new d.bases. I haven't found any command or set of actions that > triggers it. I have tried rebuilding d.bases, uninstalling & reinstalling > Pan, even reformatting entire computers all without avail. > > The problem reminds me of when Pan would crash due to the old "insufficient > memory" problem- -back then we would fix that problem by allocating more > memory to the program (not specific file) itself. Is still possible for that > to occur? > > Does anyone have any ideas how to fix these problems and not just address the > symptoms (i.e. Loss of data & productive work time)? > > Thanks for your help! > > Robert Venema > > Manager > Nevins Real Estate Management > 214 South Allen St. > State College, PA 16801 > Ph: (814) 238-3153 > Fax: (814) 238-8482 > Email: RVenema at ApartmentsStateCollege.com > http://www.ApartmentsStateCollege.com > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rvenema at apartmentsstatecollege.com Thu Feb 9 09:06:05 2012 From: Rvenema at apartmentsstatecollege.com (Robert Venema) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:06:05 -0500 Subject: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not sure?only "font" issue I know about is an error I get when I 1st open Pan saying the font "palatino" is no longer available and is going to be replaced with a generic font etc. Can't find Palatino on that computer ? but then again I have the same crashing/freezing problem on another computer with out the font issue. Rob From: "Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray" Reply-To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:08:45 -0500 To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" Subject: Re: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 It is possible that it could be a typestyle (font) problem. Tim Timothy A. Pray Tap Printing, Inc. Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 Warren, RI 02885 401-247-2188 Fax: 401-245-6270 tapprint at tapprint.com www.tapprint.com Please note: If this requires immediate attention please call my office. _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kjmeyer at mac.com Thu Feb 9 09:54:23 2012 From: kjmeyer at mac.com (Kurt J. Meyer) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:54:23 +0100 Subject: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 09.02.2012 um 18:06 schrieb Robert Venema: > Not sure?only "font" issue I know about is an error I get when I 1st open Pan saying the font "palatino" is no longer available and is going to be replaced with a generic font etc. > Can't find Palatino on that computer ? but then again I have the same crashing/freezing problem on another computer with out the font issue. I am quite sure that Palatino issue was not meant. You can search for font problems (double-activated or defect fonts) with the Mac OS X application Font Book. Kurt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Thu Feb 9 09:54:50 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:54:50 -0800 Subject: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The problem with fonts in 10.5 was usually due to incompatible fonts that were installed with old versions of Microsoft Office. Those were usually installed in the User Library, and can just be removed, as they are replaced by newer versions in the Library at the base level of the system disc. Bruce De Benedictis > Not sure?only "font" issue I know about is an error I get when I 1st open > Pan saying the font "palatino" is no longer available and is going to be > replaced with a generic font etc. > Can't find Palatino on that computer ? but then again I have the same > crashing/freezing problem on another computer with out the font issue. > > Rob > > From: "Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray" > Reply-To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:08:45 -0500 > To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" > Subject: Re: Pan 5.5 Crashing in 10.5.8 > > It is possible that it could be a typestyle (font) problem. > > Tim > > Timothy A. Pray > Tap Printing, Inc. > Design ? Copy ? Print ? Mail > 628 Metacom Avenue Unit 6 > Warren, RI 02885 > 401-247-2188 Fax: 401-245-6270 > tapprint at tapprint.com www.tapprint.com > Please note: If this requires immediate attention please call my office. > > > > _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From vic at mac.com Thu Feb 9 09:31:22 2012 From: vic at mac.com (Vic Glassley) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:31:22 -0800 Subject: upgrade!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, would be nice to upgrade, unfortunately that version still will allow you to delete columns of data without a warning, so it?s a non starter for me. Have been hoping for a version to fix this for over a year now. Glad it works for you. Vic On 2/9/12 6:00 AM, "qna-request at provue.com" wrote: > From: "Tap Printing, Inc. Timothy Pray" > Reply-To: "Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion)" > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:00:34 -0500 > To: "Panorama Questions & Answers ((Discussion))" > Subject: Upgrade!! > > Jim, > > Just a quick note that I have upgraded to Panorama 6-Build 94356 on our mac > 10.6.8. > I was hesitant because of the learning curve and the economy, however, it is > great!! Tremendous flexibility!!! > It fixed many of the issues that were troublesome, such as icons and crashing. > > Just wanted to pass this along because it does resolve many issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From csw at me.com Wed Feb 8 10:42:06 2012 From: csw at me.com (chris watts) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:42:06 -0800 Subject: Another GETQUOTE? In-Reply-To: References: <6D848F09-E925-428B-B5B2-EA7CE410100B@prodigy.net> <2EAFAA4E-B291-4008-8EC1-6182D75DF016@abernackie.com> Message-ID: <0E09AF8C-FD59-4244-900B-6E4CF8610F60@me.com> btw, the programming reference is invoked with ctr-r, and (someone's proud or this) that command works almost anywhere. sent from my iPad Chris Watts ??? ?? On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:31 AM, "Thompson, David" wrote: > You can use the Programming Reference wizard with the custom statements that are provided by Provue. For those in your own personal custom statement library, or in a library that may have been given to you by someone else, that won't be true. For those, you can still use the Custom Statements wizard. In Programming Reference, you use Command-1 to open the procedure for editing. In the Custom Statements wizard, you double-click the name of the procedure in the Statements list. > > BTW I'm not advocating changing the "Various Macros" database into a custom statement library, because changing the names of those procedures would break existing procedures that are doing FarCalls to procedures with lower case letters in their names. I just wanted to point out that, if the naming convention had been followed from the beginning, that file could have been a custom statement library all along. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Mark Terry [mark at abernackie.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:39 AM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: Another GETQUOTE? > > You can also open the procedure window for most custom statements for > viewing, editing and debugging by using Command-1 while the statement > is selected in either the Online Programming Reference or Custom > Statement Wizard. It's kind of fun to step through the code and see > how it's structured to handle all the possibilities. > > M > > On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Thompson, David wrote: > >> You may understand custom statements better than you think. Take >> your "Various Macros" database and change the names of the >> procedures, so that all the letters in the procedure's name are >> upper case and there aren't any spaces in the names, then add >> a ..CloseDatabase procedure with the one command >> >> CloseWindowKeepSecret >> >> and presto, you have your own custom statement library. Put it in >> Panorama:Extensions:Libraries: and you're good to go. When Panorama >> launches, it will OpenSecret all the databases it finds in that >> folder. Then it will list all the procedures that follow the naming >> rules, and register them. >> >> When you write >> >> macroName Parameter1, Parameter2 >> >> or >> >> MACROname Parameter1, Parameter2 >> >> etc. >> >> Panorama will compile that statement as if you had written >> >> FarCall "Various Macros", MACRONAME, Parameter1, Parameter2 >> >> When that statement is executed, it will be just like any other >> FarCall, because it is just another FarCall. >> >> Ideally, procedures that are used as custom statements should >> contain a procedure information block (see page 296 of Formulas & >> Programming.pdf) but that's not a requirement. If you have one, the >> statement will be documented in the Custom Statements wizard, and if >> you use that statement in a procedure, but write it with the wrong >> number of parameters, an error check will tell you that. >> >> Multi-line custom functions are procedures that are called by a >> call( function. You use the Custom Functions (User) wizard to create >> a custom function that uses the call( function as its formula. The >> procedure it calls will normally be placed in a custom statement >> library to take advantage of the automatic OpenSecret when Panorama >> launches. If you don't want the procedure to double as a custom >> statement, you would include some lower case letters in its name to >> keep it from being registered as one. Procedures that are called by >> the call( function run as handler procedures, with the limitations >> that go with that. On the other hand, as functions, they can be >> placed in places a custom statement (FarCall) can't, such as >> formulas in form objects, or the formula in statements like >> FormulaFill, Select, ArrayBuild, ArrayFilter etc. >> >> Dave >> ________________________________________ >> From: Vic DiFranco [vjdif at prodigy.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:36 PM >> To: qna at provue.com >> Subject: Another GETQUOTE? >> >> I don't really know how to write Panorama >> multi-line Custom items, so I proceed as follows: >> >> I have a dedicated database, called "Various Macros", which >> contains >> no data - it only contains macros. Those are my "Custom" commands or >> "Custom" functions. When I want to call a custom command or custom >> function, I use {Farcall, "Various Macros", ?macroName?, ...} in the >> procedure I am writing, instead of just "macroName" if it were a >> regular Panorama custom macro. You can also include arguments to pass >> along data to the custom macro, and by using the Setparameter command >> in the custom macro, you can return variables to the calling >> procedure, just like a function. >> >> I find this method is much easier to write and to troubleshoot, >> because it is so normal. Everything works as it should with Panorama >> macros. And, Custom Functions can do so much more - you can open >> other databases, manipulate the data, even interrupt a Custom >> Function with a GETTEXT command for more data, etc. Every Panorama >> command is available to you. Then, using the Setparameter command, >> return the desired variable to the calling procedure. And single- >> stepping through is a cinch, just like a normal Panorama macro. And I >> always know where the custom commands and functions are - safely >> stored and accessible in the "Various Macros" database. >> >> This is obviously very subjective, but I find this method more >> intuitive, and easier than the Panorama custom method. Maybe it's >> just that I don't fully understand the Panorama method sufficiently. >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From robert at ameeti.net Thu Feb 9 14:33:31 2012 From: robert at ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:33:31 -0800 Subject: ZipInfoPlus response has changed from the US Post Office Message-ID: A general note to all: The US Post office has changed their web response to doing lookup of addresses when using the ZipInfoPlus . What worked yesterday just fine today responds with an error. Their new page is HTML5 and we will need to adjust our responses of calls to their page. If you use this: ZipInfoPlus Address1,"",City,State,"",zinfo you may get errors as of today 2/9/2012 Robert Ameeti From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Thu Feb 9 16:06:59 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:06:59 -0600 Subject: ZipInfoPlus response has changed from the US Post Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44B731A8-D921-4C08-A72C-C89B5D45E8C2@memphisbusiness.com> Yep. I can confirm that. Thanks for the headsup. getdictionaryvalue(zinfo,"ZIP9") now returns an error -- nothing. And it worked fine just 2 days ago. I have another procedure that opens the USPS Zip lookup page for a manual search if Zipinfoplus fails to find a value. That lookup page was http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp . It's now resolves to https://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupAction!input.action -- and it's a brand new interface. They've obviously changed some stuff. Zipinfo is an important feature for me. Any idea of how to correct this channel and hit the new server address? I use it in both Pan 5.5 & 6. MC. -- Michael Correll On Feb 9, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Robert Ameeti wrote: > A general note to all: > > The US Post office has changed their web response to doing lookup of > addresses when using the ZipInfoPlus . What worked yesterday just > fine today responds with an error. Their new page is HTML5 and we > will need to adjust our responses of calls to their page. > > > If you use this: ZipInfoPlus Address1,"",City,State,"",zinfo > > you may get errors as of today 2/9/2012 > > > > Robert Ameeti From kjmeyer at mac.com Thu Feb 9 16:53:47 2012 From: kjmeyer at mac.com (Kurt J. Meyer) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:53:47 +0100 Subject: upgrade!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <895542A0-E15A-4EDA-BA22-7DA7CF5EF945@mac.com> Am 09.02.2012 um 18:31 schrieb Vic Glassley: > unfortunately that version still will allow you to delete columns of data without a warning, so it?s a non starter for me. Jim Rea already told us that this issue is not intended, and the bug will be corrected in the next released build. The documentation says that intentionally there is a warning if the column contains data. In the most recent release this warning is missing, but it requires some more user action, to really lose data. 1. You have to press 2 keys (cmd and delete) or to use a menu item to delete a field (=column). 2. You have to be unaware, what you did, you must not notice what happened, and you have to save your Panorama file later on. Then, indeed, you will lose the data of the column. (In this case you can skip step 3a and directly go to 3b.) 3. Although the Panorama documentation says you can't undo the delete field command, there are several ways to keep your data safe. a) When you notice that you deleted a column by mistake, you simply use the File menu item "Revert to saved". b) Panorama 6 additionally offers several fallback mechanisms. You can go back to one of the "Time Slices". Kurt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jayschille at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 17:31:43 2012 From: jayschille at gmail.com (Jay Schille) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:31:43 -0800 Subject: ZipInfoPlus response has changed from the US Post Office In-Reply-To: <44B731A8-D921-4C08-A72C-C89B5D45E8C2@memphisbusiness.com> References: <44B731A8-D921-4C08-A72C-C89B5D45E8C2@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: You can edit the code for ZipInfoPlus (found in _WebContentLib). Start by replacing the old USPS zip code lookup page with the new one and tinker with it until it returns what you want. Try a sample lookup and then inspect the HTML code for the resulting page to see what tagdata functions are needed to return zip code related information under the new USPS format. If we're lucky, only the URL has changed, and the rest of the code will still work, but somehow I think that's not likely.. Or wait until this weekend when I have a chance to work on this. I use it quite a bit to return nine-digit zip codes for addresses in a mailing list. A few days ago I was observing the progress of a procedure that stepped through a 15,000 person database and added nine-digit zips for them, when about three-quarters of the way through, it stopped working. Grr. On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Correll < mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com> wrote: > Yep. I can confirm that. Thanks for the headsup. > getdictionaryvalue(zinfo,"**ZIP9") now returns an error -- nothing. And > it worked fine just 2 days ago. I have another procedure that opens the > USPS Zip lookup page for a manual search if Zipinfoplus fails to find a > value. That lookup page was http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/**welcome.jsp. > It's now resolves to https://tools.usps.com/go/** > ZipLookupAction!input.action -- and it's a brand new interface. They've obviously changed some stuff. > > Zipinfo is an important feature for me. Any idea of how to correct this > channel and hit the new server address? I use it in both Pan 5.5 & 6. > > MC. > > -- > Michael Correll > > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Robert Ameeti wrote: > > A general note to all: >> >> The US Post office has changed their web response to doing lookup of >> addresses when using the ZipInfoPlus . What worked yesterday just fine >> today responds with an error. Their new page is HTML5 and we will need to >> adjust our responses of calls to their page. >> >> >> If you use this: ZipInfoPlus Address1,"",City,State,"",**zinfo >> >> you may get errors as of today 2/9/2012 >> >> >> >> Robert Ameeti >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/**listinfo/qna > -- Jay Schille -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jk at acaciasystems.com Fri Feb 10 08:49:16 2012 From: jk at acaciasystems.com (Jeff Kozuch) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:49:16 -0800 Subject: SendBulkemail In-Reply-To: <92E39A48-F9CA-47A0-8774-3FD74BC41AFF@yahoo.com> References: <92E39A48-F9CA-47A0-8774-3FD74BC41AFF@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <78953B60-268E-4556-AD52-0C5F546FA8A8@acaciasystems.com> Has sendbulkemail stopped working in Pan 6? I tried to send several hundred emails yesterday and the sendbulkemail procedure that used to work would only send one email at a time. Also, instead of interactively greeting the person by their first name, the emails said Dear FirstName. Very strange. Also, I had a client who was sending emails with a loop and sendoneemail. After anywhere from 25 to 75 emails were sent, he received an Apple Event Timeout error. He was sending via his .mac account. I am assuming .mac may be discouraging people from sending email blasts as I could send several hundred using the same procedure with no errors. Has anybody else run into this problem? Thanks in advance, Jeff Jeff Kozuch President, Acacia Systems Panorama Programming and Training Apple Certified Technical Coordinator Member, Apple Consultants Network jk at acaciasystems.com http://www.acaciasystems.com 562-437-7690 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From csw at me.com Fri Feb 10 09:19:22 2012 From: csw at me.com (chris watts) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:19:22 -0800 Subject: SendBulkemail In-Reply-To: <78953B60-268E-4556-AD52-0C5F546FA8A8@acaciasystems.com> References: <92E39A48-F9CA-47A0-8774-3FD74BC41AFF@yahoo.com> <78953B60-268E-4556-AD52-0C5F546FA8A8@acaciasystems.com> Message-ID: the regular mail channel has broken too. with Lion, there are some changes in Mail.app's AppleScript library, and that breaks the channel. I haven't figured out how to fix it yet... though I confess I haven't tried that hard yet. sent from my iPad Chris Watts ??? ?? Bake Visual Effects, Inc. 1858 North Avenue 53 Los Angeles, CA 90042 main 323-333-5000 fax 206-350-0064 skype cswatts aim cwfx1 yahoo cwiphone dot?mac csw http://imdb.com/name/nm0915121/ www.bake.org On Feb 10, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jeff Kozuch wrote: > Has sendbulkemail stopped working in Pan 6? I tried to send several hundred emails yesterday and the sendbulkemail procedure that used to work would only send one email at a time. Also, instead of interactively greeting the person by their first name, the emails said Dear FirstName. Very strange. > > Also, I had a client who was sending emails with a loop and sendoneemail. After anywhere from 25 to 75 emails were sent, he received an Apple Event Timeout error. He was sending via his .mac account. I am assuming .mac may be discouraging people from sending email blasts as I could send several hundred using the same procedure with no errors. Has anybody else run into this problem? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jeff > > Jeff Kozuch > President, Acacia Systems > Panorama Programming and Training > Apple Certified Technical Coordinator > Member, Apple Consultants Network > jk at acaciasystems.com > http://www.acaciasystems.com > 562-437-7690 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Fri Feb 10 09:29:20 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:29:20 +0000 Subject: SendBulkemail In-Reply-To: <78953B60-268E-4556-AD52-0C5F546FA8A8@acaciasystems.com> References: <92E39A48-F9CA-47A0-8774-3FD74BC41AFF@yahoo.com>, <78953B60-268E-4556-AD52-0C5F546FA8A8@acaciasystems.com> Message-ID: SendBulkEmail is designed to send one email with multiple BCC recipients. It's not capable of greeting individual recipients by name. Dave ________________________________ From: Jeff Kozuch [jk at acaciasystems.com] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:49 AM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: SendBulkemail Has sendbulkemail stopped working in Pan 6? I tried to send several hundred emails yesterday and the sendbulkemail procedure that used to work would only send one email at a time. Also, instead of interactively greeting the person by their first name, the emails said Dear FirstName. Very strange. Also, I had a client who was sending emails with a loop and sendoneemail. After anywhere from 25 to 75 emails were sent, he received an Apple Event Timeout error. He was sending via his .mac account. I am assuming .mac may be discouraging people from sending email blasts as I could send several hundred using the same procedure with no errors. Has anybody else run into this problem? Thanks in advance, Jeff Jeff Kozuch President, Acacia Systems Panorama Programming and Training Apple Certified Technical Coordinator Member, Apple Consultants Network jk at acaciasystems.com http://www.acaciasystems.com 562-437-7690 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jk at acaciasystems.com Fri Feb 10 09:38:21 2012 From: jk at acaciasystems.com (Jeff Kozuch) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:38:21 -0800 Subject: SendBulkemail In-Reply-To: References: <92E39A48-F9CA-47A0-8774-3FD74BC41AFF@yahoo.com>, <78953B60-268E-4556-AD52-0C5F546FA8A8@acaciasystems.com> Message-ID: <44C1C22F-2D95-4A50-81BD-E0AC45B5D535@acaciasystems.com> > SendBulkEmail is designed to send one email with multiple BCC > recipients. It's not capable of greeting individual recipients by > name. Dave, You're right, as usual, but it is still sending only one email when several hundred records are selected. 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URL: From vjdif at prodigy.net Sat Feb 11 13:40:49 2012 From: vjdif at prodigy.net (Vic DiFranco) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:40:49 -0600 Subject: GETSTOCKQUOTE Update Message-ID: Bruce Benedictus wrote: I looked at the source for the page, and it should work. I have no idea what is wrong with HD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------- Hello Bruce and Peter Flint, The reason the GETSTOCKQUOTE command can't return a quote for Home Depot (HD) is because there is another entry for _hd, completely unrelated to Home Depot, in the Yahoo Page Source for the URL. In fact, that page source also contains unrelated entries for the Dow Jones Average (^dji), and NASDAQ Average (^ixic), so I imagine those quotes will not be returned either. By the way, there are at least 10 other "stock symbols" that will not return a quote, although for now, those symbols do not correspond to any stock. In future, if a new stock uses one of those symbols, a quote will not be returned. This difficulty can be avoided, and quotes returned for all stocks, if Bruce's next-to-last line is changed to: QuoteValue = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker","",?1][2,?1] This change will also ensure that the Dow Jones and NASDAQ Averages are returned, as well as any other future stock symbols that will be assigned. Bruce's GETSTOCKQUOTE command is very useful, and I find myself using it, as modified above, more and more. Best regards, Vic DiFranco From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Sat Feb 11 19:15:07 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:15:07 -0800 Subject: GETSTOCKQUOTE Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you! I realize that I should have been a little more careful delimiting the data I wanted. Since you are interested in this, I thought I would pass along the version I use, which adds another parameter and returns additional useful data. I put the channel module procedure text, with your correction, at the top, and the statement procedure text at the bottom. There are other data available, which I never got around to adding, and I had some other ideas, like using more than one web page as a source, for comparison's sake, but this would undoubtedly go better as a collaborative project. https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/p0dve Bruce De Benedictis > Bruce Benedictus wrote: > > I looked at the source for the page, and it should work. I have no > idea what is wrong with HD. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------- > > Hello Bruce and Peter Flint, > > The reason the GETSTOCKQUOTE command can't return a quote for Home > Depot (HD) is because there is another entry for _hd, completely > unrelated to Home Depot, in the Yahoo Page Source for the URL. In > fact, that page source also contains unrelated entries for the Dow > Jones Average (^dji), and NASDAQ Average (^ixic), so I imagine those > quotes will not be returned either. By the way, there are at least 10 > other "stock symbols" that will not return a quote, although for now, > those symbols do not correspond to any stock. In future, if a new > stock uses one of those symbols, a quote will not be returned. > > This difficulty can be avoided, and quotes returned for all stocks, > if Bruce's next-to-last line is changed to: > > QuoteValue = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker","",?1][2,?1] > > This change will also ensure that the Dow Jones and NASDAQ Averages > are returned, as well as any other future stock symbols that will be > assigned. > > Bruce's GETSTOCKQUOTE command is very useful, and I find myself > using it, as modified above, more and more. > > Best regards, > Vic DiFranco > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Sat Feb 11 21:53:39 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:53:39 -0800 Subject: GETSTOCKQUOTE Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Upon doing a little more testing, I think there should be a val() around the expression that Vic gave. A little more streamlining gives: QuoteValue = val(tagdata(tagdata(YahooPage,'class="time_rtq_ticker">","<",1)) That is the correct replacement for the next-to-last line. I will change that in the text file on me.com. Bruce De Benedictis > Thank you! I realize that I should have been a little more careful > delimiting the data I wanted. > > Since you are interested in this, I thought I would pass along the version I > use, which adds another parameter and returns additional useful data. I put > the channel module procedure text, with your correction, at the top, and the > statement procedure text at the bottom. There are other data available, > which I never got around to adding, and I had some other ideas, like using > more than one web page as a source, for comparison's sake, but this would > undoubtedly go better as a collaborative project. > > https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/p0dve > > Bruce De Benedictis > >> Bruce Benedictus wrote: >> >> I looked at the source for the page, and it should work. I have no >> idea what is wrong with HD. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ----------------- >> >> Hello Bruce and Peter Flint, >> >> The reason the GETSTOCKQUOTE command can't return a quote for Home >> Depot (HD) is because there is another entry for _hd, completely >> unrelated to Home Depot, in the Yahoo Page Source for the URL. In >> fact, that page source also contains unrelated entries for the Dow >> Jones Average (^dji), and NASDAQ Average (^ixic), so I imagine those >> quotes will not be returned either. By the way, there are at least 10 >> other "stock symbols" that will not return a quote, although for now, >> those symbols do not correspond to any stock. In future, if a new >> stock uses one of those symbols, a quote will not be returned. >> >> This difficulty can be avoided, and quotes returned for all stocks, >> if Bruce's next-to-last line is changed to: >> >> QuoteValue = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker","",?1][2,?1] >> >> This change will also ensure that the Dow Jones and NASDAQ Averages >> are returned, as well as any other future stock symbols that will be >> assigned. >> >> Bruce's GETSTOCKQUOTE command is very useful, and I find myself >> using it, as modified above, more and more. >> >> Best regards, >> Vic DiFranco >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Sat Feb 11 22:01:34 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:01:34 -0800 Subject: GETSTOCKQUOTE Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It looks like I copied the address for the text file download incorrectly. It is at: https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/p0dvei Bruce De Benedictis > Upon doing a little more testing, I think there should be a val() around the > expression that Vic gave. A little more streamlining gives: > QuoteValue = val(tagdata(tagdata(YahooPage,'class="time_rtq_ticker"> ',"/",1),">","<",1)) > > That is the correct replacement for the next-to-last line. > > I will change that in the text file on me.com. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > >> Thank you! I realize that I should have been a little more careful >> delimiting the data I wanted. >> >> Since you are interested in this, I thought I would pass along the version I >> use, which adds another parameter and returns additional useful data. I put >> the channel module procedure text, with your correction, at the top, and the >> statement procedure text at the bottom. There are other data available, >> which I never got around to adding, and I had some other ideas, like using >> more than one web page as a source, for comparison's sake, but this would >> undoubtedly go better as a collaborative project. >> >> https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/p0dve >> >> Bruce De Benedictis >> >>> Bruce Benedictus wrote: >>> >>> I looked at the source for the page, and it should work. I have no >>> idea what is wrong with HD. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ----------------- >>> >>> Hello Bruce and Peter Flint, >>> >>> The reason the GETSTOCKQUOTE command can't return a quote for Home >>> Depot (HD) is because there is another entry for _hd, completely >>> unrelated to Home Depot, in the Yahoo Page Source for the URL. In >>> fact, that page source also contains unrelated entries for the Dow >>> Jones Average (^dji), and NASDAQ Average (^ixic), so I imagine those >>> quotes will not be returned either. By the way, there are at least 10 >>> other "stock symbols" that will not return a quote, although for now, >>> those symbols do not correspond to any stock. In future, if a new >>> stock uses one of those symbols, a quote will not be returned. >>> >>> This difficulty can be avoided, and quotes returned for all stocks, >>> if Bruce's next-to-last line is changed to: >>> >>> QuoteValue = tagdata(YahooPage,"time_rtq_ticker","",?1][2,?1] >>> >>> This change will also ensure that the Dow Jones and NASDAQ Averages >>> are returned, as well as any other future stock symbols that will be >>> assigned. >>> >>> Bruce's GETSTOCKQUOTE command is very useful, and I find myself >>> using it, as modified above, more and more. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Vic DiFranco >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From qnaweb at provue.com Sun Feb 12 12:12:38 2012 From: qnaweb at provue.com (Eamonn White) Date: 12 Feb 2012 12:12:38 -0800 Subject: File Menu Disappears Message-ID: Hello, I notice that when I start Panorama Sheets the file menu appears for a split second and then disappears, leaving only Panorama and Help. Is this normal? If not, can it be rectified? Sincerely, Eamonn From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Mon Feb 13 00:16:18 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:16:18 -0800 Subject: ZipInfoPlus response has changed from the US Post Office In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Okay, folks, here is the updated code: https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/thq7sv To use it, open the programmers reference, cntl-R. Search for ZipInfoPlus Open the source using command-1 Replace the text of the procedure with the text from this file. Save it. I think it will work as it is supposed to, barring glitches from the post office site. Bruce De Benedictis > You can edit the code for ZipInfoPlus (found in _WebContentLib). Start by > replacing the old USPS zip code lookup page with the new one and tinker > with it until it returns what you want. > > Try a sample lookup and then inspect the HTML code for the resulting page > to see what tagdata functions are needed to return zip code related > information under the new USPS format. If we're lucky, only the URL has > changed, and the rest of the code will still work, but somehow I think > that's not likely.. > > Or wait until this weekend when I have a chance to work on this. I use it > quite a bit to return nine-digit zip codes for addresses in a mailing list. > A few days ago I was observing the progress of a procedure that stepped > through a 15,000 person database and added nine-digit zips for them, when > about three-quarters of the way through, it stopped working. Grr. > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Correll < > mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com> wrote: > >> Yep. I can confirm that. Thanks for the headsup. >> getdictionaryvalue(zinfo,"**ZIP9") now returns an error -- nothing. And >> it worked fine just 2 days ago. I have another procedure that opens the >> USPS Zip lookup page for a manual search if Zipinfoplus fails to find a >> value. That lookup page was >> http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/**welcome.jsp> >. >> It's now resolves to https://tools.usps.com/go/** >> ZipLookupAction!input.action> action> -- and it's a brand new interface. They've obviously changed some >> stuff. >> >> Zipinfo is an important feature for me. Any idea of how to correct this >> channel and hit the new server address? I use it in both Pan 5.5 & 6. >> >> MC. >> >> -- >> Michael Correll >> >> >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Robert Ameeti wrote: >> >> A general note to all: >>> >>> The US Post office has changed their web response to doing lookup of >>> addresses when using the ZipInfoPlus . What worked yesterday just fine >>> today responds with an error. Their new page is HTML5 and we will need to >>> adjust our responses of calls to their page. >>> >>> >>> If you use this: ZipInfoPlus Address1,"",City,State,"",**zinfo >>> >>> you may get errors as of today 2/9/2012 >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Ameeti >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/**listinfo/qna> na> >> > > From ballewijn at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 06:07:48 2012 From: ballewijn at gmail.com (Sylvia van der Heijden) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:07:48 +0100 Subject: upgrade Message-ID: I a working with Mac Os X version 10.6.8: 2,4GHz Inter Core Duo, and want to make a update to make use of iCloud. But there was a problem in the past with Panorama, we have had to install this with Rosetta, could you inform me if we can still continue with Panorama (version 5.5.2) with a update to the newer system, we don't want to make a update of Panorama because things are changed and we have a very important/complicated file with macro's. Best regards Sylvia van er Heijden From jim at provue.com Mon Feb 13 14:32:17 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:32:17 -0800 Subject: File Menu Disappears In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is not normal. Actually, by default either the New Database wizard or the Recent Databases wizard appears, so there should actually be additional menus. If you open the Preferences window, what option have you selected for "Double clicking on Panorama opens"? Jim On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Eamonn White wrote: > Hello, > I notice that when I start Panorama Sheets the file menu appears for a > split second and then disappears, leaving only Panorama and Help. > Is this normal? If not, can it be rectified? > Sincerely, > Eamonn > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Mon Feb 13 14:36:06 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:36:06 -0800 Subject: upgrade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To upgrade to OS X 10.7 or above, you will need to upgrade to Panorama 6. Files that you made with Panorama 5.5 should work without problems on Panorama 6. You can test it by downloading Panorama 6 and using it in unregistered mode. Bruce De Benedictis > I a working with Mac Os X version 10.6.8: 2,4GHz Inter Core Duo, and want to > make a update to make use of iCloud. > But there was a problem in the past with Panorama, we have had to install this > with Rosetta, could you inform me if we can still continue with Panorama > (version 5.5.2) with a update to the newer system, we don't want to make a > update of Panorama because things are changed and we have a very > important/complicated file with macro's. > > Best regards > Sylvia van er Heijden > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Mon Feb 13 15:59:00 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:59:00 -0800 Subject: Updated links: GetStockQuote and ZipInfoPlus Message-ID: Arggh! I made some corrections to the updates that I posted about, and the files were no longer shared. For the stock quote procedures, use: https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/xn69gk For the ZipInfoPlus procedure, use: https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/el9l2u Sorry about that. Bruce De Benedictis From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Mon Feb 13 16:08:03 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:08:03 -0800 Subject: Updated links: GetStockQuote and ZipInfoPlus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: By the way, I made the changes after noting that val(12,874.04) returns 12, not 12874.04 or 12874.04. Bruce De Benedictis > Arggh! > > I made some corrections to the updates that I posted about, and the files > were no longer shared. > > For the stock quote procedures, use: > https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/xn69gk > > For the ZipInfoPlus procedure, use: > https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/el9l2u > > Sorry about that. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Mon Feb 13 18:01:48 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:01:48 -0600 Subject: Editing ZipinfoPlus Statement in Pan Direct Message-ID: <8124F35F-7E94-4AB9-BD8C-000ED2DB5E7D@memphisbusiness.com> Thanks to Bruce for his work on ZipinfoPlus and Stock GetStockQuote.... But, just now noticed this. I can't edit the ZipinofPlus statement in my copy of Pan 5.5 Direct since procedures are hidden or disabled. And the copy of Pan Direct is where most editing and zip code updating is done. So, is there any way to edit ZipinfoPlus for use on Pan Direct? Or a workaround? Thanks....... MC> -- Michael Correll From dvthmpson at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 20:30:52 2012 From: dvthmpson at gmail.com (David Thompson) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:30:52 -0600 Subject: Editing ZipinfoPlus Statement in Pan Direct In-Reply-To: <8124F35F-7E94-4AB9-BD8C-000ED2DB5E7D@memphisbusiness.com> References: <8124F35F-7E94-4AB9-BD8C-000ED2DB5E7D@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: You could temporarily disable the registration on that copy. A demo copy of Panorama does allow you to edit procedures. Since the files in question don't contain any data, you won't even need to click any blue letters when you save. Once you have made the changes, you would re-enable the registration. Dave On 2/13/12, Michael Correll wrote: > > Thanks to Bruce for his work on ZipinfoPlus and Stock GetStockQuote.... > > But, just now noticed this. I can't edit the ZipinofPlus statement in > my copy of Pan 5.5 Direct since procedures are hidden or disabled. > And the copy of Pan Direct is where most editing and zip code updating > is done. > > So, is there any way to edit ZipinfoPlus for use on Pan Direct? Or a > workaround? > From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Tue Feb 14 00:50:59 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:50:59 -0800 Subject: Updated links: GetStockQuote and ZipInfoPlus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Michael Correll pointed out that the ZipInfoPlus was not working without a Zip code. I experimented with it a bit, and I think that I have corrected it. So if you tried it already, download the text file again and paste it in again. If you have not been following, in Panorama, control-R for the programmer's reference, select ZipInfoPlus, then command-1 for the source, paste the text in and save. Bruce De Benedictis > By the way, I made the changes after noting that val(12,874.04) returns 12, > not 12874.04 or 12874.04. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > >> Arggh! >> >> I made some corrections to the updates that I posted about, and the files >> were no longer shared. >> >> For the stock quote procedures, use: >> https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/xn69gk >> >> For the ZipInfoPlus procedure, use: >> https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/el9l2u >> >> Sorry about that. >> >> Bruce De Benedictis >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From botengapanorama at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 00:53:26 2012 From: botengapanorama at gmail.com (dr. A.S.J. Botenga) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:53:26 +0100 Subject: upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> I did already and that was the problem. My partner is using a complicated file with written macro's by himself ( a still older version than 5.5) and this makes him realy out of his mind because the changes in panorama. He had to change to Mac Os X and he is still confused. Sylvia Op 13 feb 2012, om 23:36 heeft Bruce De Benedictis het volgende geschreven: > To upgrade to OS X 10.7 or above, you will need to upgrade to Panorama 6. > Files that you made with Panorama 5.5 should work without problems on > Panorama 6. You can test it by downloading Panorama 6 and using it in > unregistered mode. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > >> I a working with Mac Os X version 10.6.8: 2,4GHz Inter Core Duo, and want to >> make a update to make use of iCloud. >> But there was a problem in the past with Panorama, we have had to install this >> with Rosetta, could you inform me if we can still continue with Panorama >> (version 5.5.2) with a update to the newer system, we don't want to make a >> update of Panorama because things are changed and we have a very >> important/complicated file with macro's. >> >> Best regards >> Sylvia van er Heijden >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From designer at quickdata.com Tue Feb 14 09:35:51 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:35:51 -0800 Subject: upgrade In-Reply-To: <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> References: <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F3A9B77.8020106@quickdata.com> Sylvia, If your partner moves to Panorama V6.x, there might be less confusion if options are set in Preferences that make the interface more like "Classic". That way the menu choices and such are more as expected. Before I did that, I was often asking myself, "How do I do that now?" Eventually I'll switch back and learn all the "new" features of V6. But when I need to get something done quickly, those old familiar menu choices are there, ready to do the work. Paul QuickData On 2/14/12 12:53 AM, dr. A.S.J. Botenga wrote: > I did already and that was the problem. My partner is using a complicated file with written macro's by himself ( a still older version than 5.5) and this makes him realy out of his mind because the changes in panorama. He had to change to Mac Os X and he is still confused. > Sylvia From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Tue Feb 14 09:38:09 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:38:09 +0000 Subject: upgrade In-Reply-To: <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> References: , <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> Message-ID: There are preferences you can choose, so that there won't be so many changes from what you are used to. Choose Preferences... from the Panorama menu, and then click on "General Preferences." Then you will want to check "Open File Dialog" under "Double clicking Panorama opens..." and then both "Use Classic menus" and "Include Built-in wizards" under "Menu Options...". With "Classic" menus chosen, you will get the menus you are used to, and you will get the dialogs you are used to for things like Formula Fill... Find/Select... Outline Level and Remove Summaries. Dave ________________________________________ From: dr. A.S.J. Botenga [botengapanorama at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:53 AM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: upgrade I did already and that was the problem. My partner is using a complicated file with written macro's by himself ( a still older version than 5.5) and this makes him realy out of his mind because the changes in panorama. He had to change to Mac Os X and he is still confused. Sylvia Op 13 feb 2012, om 23:36 heeft Bruce De Benedictis het volgende geschreven: > To upgrade to OS X 10.7 or above, you will need to upgrade to Panorama 6. > Files that you made with Panorama 5.5 should work without problems on > Panorama 6. You can test it by downloading Panorama 6 and using it in > unregistered mode. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > >> I a working with Mac Os X version 10.6.8: 2,4GHz Inter Core Duo, and want to >> make a update to make use of iCloud. >> But there was a problem in the past with Panorama, we have had to install this >> with Rosetta, could you inform me if we can still continue with Panorama >> (version 5.5.2) with a update to the newer system, we don't want to make a >> update of Panorama because things are changed and we have a very >> important/complicated file with macro's. >> >> Best regards >> Sylvia van er Heijden >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com Tue Feb 14 10:34:22 2012 From: mcorrell at memphisbusiness.com (Michael Correll) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:34:22 -0600 Subject: Editing ZipinfoPlus Statement in Pan Direct In-Reply-To: References: <8124F35F-7E94-4AB9-BD8C-000ED2DB5E7D@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: <2DBA9A20-9C48-439B-869C-AC96ABF0AFE4@memphisbusiness.com> Great! Thanks Dave. Hadn't thought of that. And I bet I'm not the only one who encountered that issue. And thanks again to Bruce for the updates on Zipinfo+ and GetStockQuote, both features (among many others) which make Pan quite unique. Just looped through 1100 records with a blanked Zip field in about 26 min. -- roughly 1.5 sec per record. Works beautifully. For anyone doing mailing or address correction, this is a rather important feature. Typically, the USPS may change some of the Zip4 designations quarterly, so updating these is essential for accuracy. -- Michael Correll On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 PM, David Thompson wrote: > You could temporarily disable the registration on that copy. A demo > copy of Panorama does allow you to edit procedures. Since the files in > question don't contain any data, you won't even need to click any blue > letters when you save. Once you have made the changes, you would > re-enable the registration. > > Dave > > On 2/13/12, Michael Correll wrote: >> >> Thanks to Bruce for his work on ZipinfoPlus and Stock >> GetStockQuote.... >> >> But, just now noticed this. I can't edit the ZipinofPlus statement >> in >> my copy of Pan 5.5 Direct since procedures are hidden or disabled. >> And the copy of Pan Direct is where most editing and zip code >> updating >> is done. >> >> So, is there any way to edit ZipinfoPlus for use on Pan Direct? Or a >> workaround? >> > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Tue Feb 14 10:41:38 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:41:38 -0800 Subject: Editing ZipinfoPlus Statement in Pan Direct In-Reply-To: <2DBA9A20-9C48-439B-869C-AC96ABF0AFE4@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: The Post Office has free packages for bar coding using the new codes, with Applescripts for integrating with other applications. I have been using the old Postnet codes, but one of these days, I or someone else should integrate them into Panorama. Someone else took over the bulk mailing I used to do, so this is not as urgent for me these days. Bruce De Benedictis > Great! Thanks Dave. Hadn't thought of that. And I bet I'm not the > only one who encountered that issue. > > And thanks again to Bruce for the updates on Zipinfo+ and > GetStockQuote, both features (among many others) which make Pan quite > unique. > > Just looped through 1100 records with a blanked Zip field in about 26 > min. -- roughly 1.5 sec per record. Works beautifully. For anyone > doing mailing or address correction, this is a rather important > feature. Typically, the USPS may change some of the Zip4 designations > quarterly, so updating these is essential for accuracy. > > -- > Michael Correll > > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 PM, David Thompson wrote: > >> You could temporarily disable the registration on that copy. A demo >> copy of Panorama does allow you to edit procedures. Since the files in >> question don't contain any data, you won't even need to click any blue >> letters when you save. Once you have made the changes, you would >> re-enable the registration. >> >> Dave >> >> On 2/13/12, Michael Correll wrote: >>> >>> Thanks to Bruce for his work on ZipinfoPlus and Stock >>> GetStockQuote.... >>> >>> But, just now noticed this. I can't edit the ZipinofPlus statement >>> in >>> my copy of Pan 5.5 Direct since procedures are hidden or disabled. >>> And the copy of Pan Direct is where most editing and zip code >>> updating >>> is done. >>> >>> So, is there any way to edit ZipinfoPlus for use on Pan Direct? Or a >>> workaround? >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From botengapanorama at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 11:19:21 2012 From: botengapanorama at gmail.com (dr. A.S.J. Botenga) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:19:21 +0100 Subject: upgrade In-Reply-To: References: , <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you very much I will suggest this to my partner. Sylvia Op 14 feb 2012, om 18:38 heeft Thompson, David het volgende geschreven: > There are preferences you can choose, so that there won't be so many changes from what you are used to. Choose Preferences... from the Panorama menu, and then click on "General Preferences." Then you will want to check "Open File Dialog" under "Double clicking Panorama opens..." and then both "Use Classic menus" and "Include Built-in wizards" under "Menu Options...". With "Classic" menus chosen, you will get the menus you are used to, and you will get the dialogs you are used to for things like Formula Fill... Find/Select... Outline Level and Remove Summaries. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: dr. A.S.J. Botenga [botengapanorama at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:53 AM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: upgrade > > I did already and that was the problem. My partner is using a complicated file with written macro's by himself ( a still older version than 5.5) and this makes him realy out of his mind because the changes in panorama. He had to change to Mac Os X and he is still confused. > Sylvia > Op 13 feb 2012, om 23:36 heeft Bruce De Benedictis het volgende geschreven: > >> To upgrade to OS X 10.7 or above, you will need to upgrade to Panorama 6. >> Files that you made with Panorama 5.5 should work without problems on >> Panorama 6. You can test it by downloading Panorama 6 and using it in >> unregistered mode. >> >> Bruce De Benedictis >> >> >>> I a working with Mac Os X version 10.6.8: 2,4GHz Inter Core Duo, and want to >>> make a update to make use of iCloud. >>> But there was a problem in the past with Panorama, we have had to install this >>> with Rosetta, could you inform me if we can still continue with Panorama >>> (version 5.5.2) with a update to the newer system, we don't want to make a >>> update of Panorama because things are changed and we have a very >>> important/complicated file with macro's. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Sylvia van er Heijden >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From botengapanorama at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 11:20:15 2012 From: botengapanorama at gmail.com (dr. A.S.J. Botenga) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:20:15 +0100 Subject: upgrade In-Reply-To: <4F3A9B77.8020106@quickdata.com> References: <437538E9-AF95-4A5A-906C-BFDB40D69312@gmail.com> <4F3A9B77.8020106@quickdata.com> Message-ID: Paul, Thank you very much will suggest this to my partner. Sylvia Op 14 feb 2012, om 18:35 heeft Paul het volgende geschreven: > Sylvia, > If your partner moves to Panorama V6.x, there might be less confusion if options are set in Preferences that make the interface more like "Classic". That way the menu choices and such are more as expected. Before I did that, I was often asking myself, "How do I do that now?" Eventually I'll switch back and learn all the "new" features of V6. But when I need to get something done quickly, those old familiar menu choices are there, ready to do the work. > > Paul > QuickData > > On 2/14/12 12:53 AM, dr. A.S.J. Botenga wrote: >> I did already and that was the problem. My partner is using a complicated file with written macro's by himself ( a still older version than 5.5) and this makes him realy out of his mind because the changes in panorama. He had to change to Mac Os X and he is still confused. >> Sylvia > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From jayschille at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 14:34:31 2012 From: jayschille at gmail.com (Jay Schille) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:34:31 -0800 Subject: Editing ZipinfoPlus Statement in Pan Direct In-Reply-To: References: <2DBA9A20-9C48-439B-869C-AC96ABF0AFE4@memphisbusiness.com> Message-ID: If you do any amount of bulk mailing, let me recommend Postage$aver: http://savepostage.com/psinfo.html There are new "Intelligent Mail" barcodes in the works to replace the current barcode system. Not mandatory right now, but sometime soon. To do bulk mailing and get the lowest rates, you need to have your mailing list CASS-certified. To quote Postage $aver: "CASS-certified zip+4 matching software is expensive, since it must include a copy to the huge USPS master zip+4 file, which must be updated every two months." There are mailing list services that can handle the CASS certification for you inexpensively and quickly. I've used SmartyStreets http://www.smartystreets.com/ The Postal Service requires your mailing list to be re-certified every six months, so even if you verify and correct addresses using ZipCodePlus, to do bulk mailing you need your list to be CASS-certified. A while back I checked into the cost of getting the USPS database and developing my own CASS software with Panorama, but the low rates charged by mail-list processors (under $30) and the hundreds of dollars charged to subscribe to the USPS database quickly changed my mind. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Bruce De Benedictis < bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com> wrote: > The Post Office has free packages for bar coding using the new codes, with > Applescripts for integrating with other applications. I have been using the > old Postnet codes, but one of these days, I or someone else should > integrate > them into Panorama. > > Someone else took over the bulk mailing I used to do, so this is not as > urgent for me these days. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > > > Great! Thanks Dave. Hadn't thought of that. And I bet I'm not the > > only one who encountered that issue. > > > > And thanks again to Bruce for the updates on Zipinfo+ and > > GetStockQuote, both features (among many others) which make Pan quite > > unique. > > > > Just looped through 1100 records with a blanked Zip field in about 26 > > min. -- roughly 1.5 sec per record. Works beautifully. For anyone > > doing mailing or address correction, this is a rather important > > feature. Typically, the USPS may change some of the Zip4 designations > > quarterly, so updating these is essential for accuracy. > > > > -- > > Michael Correll > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 PM, David Thompson wrote: > > > >> You could temporarily disable the registration on that copy. A demo > >> copy of Panorama does allow you to edit procedures. Since the files in > >> question don't contain any data, you won't even need to click any blue > >> letters when you save. Once you have made the changes, you would > >> re-enable the registration. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> On 2/13/12, Michael Correll wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks to Bruce for his work on ZipinfoPlus and Stock > >>> GetStockQuote.... > >>> > >>> But, just now noticed this. I can't edit the ZipinofPlus statement > >>> in > >>> my copy of Pan 5.5 Direct since procedures are hidden or disabled. > >>> And the copy of Pan Direct is where most editing and zip code > >>> updating > >>> is done. > >>> > >>> So, is there any way to edit ZipinfoPlus for use on Pan Direct? Or a > >>> workaround? > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Qna mailing list > >> Qna at provue.com > >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qna mailing list > > Qna at provue.com > > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > Jay Schille -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a save command at the end of the import procedure which saves the database after the import. It is generating a disk error. After this the database generates an error that it can't save because file such and such garble can't be found when manually trying to save and can't be saved until it is closed and reopened. I expect there is some conflict with the database being saved while the applescript is still active. The script Panorama is calling is also still active while Endicia is printing? I would like to be able to use Panorama while Endicia is processing a large batch. Does anyone know what may be going on and how to deal with it? Is there a way to for a program to free itself from a script after calling it and before any application it calls has finished? Thanks very much, Jeff From Jim at JamesCook.biz Fri Feb 17 12:07:41 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:07:41 -0500 Subject: ChangeObjects Padding Message-ID: <0B8B2D2E-2C08-468A-A55E-6FF86325ADDB@JamesCook.biz> I'm using a procedure to change settings on a whole lot of tiny text editors in a grid. Doing it manually is just wayyy too tedious. It seems that all I've tried work just fine except for padding which, as Murphy's Law would have it, is my primary need. I've tried other numbers in case there's a documentation error, but to no avail. Does anyone else have Padding working? SelectObjects Objectinfo("type") contains "text editor" changeobjects "#PADDING",-1 changeobjects "#SELECT STARTUP",2 changeobjects "#TERMINATE RETURN",-1 changeobjects "#TERMINATE TAB",-1 changeobjects "#TERMINATE UP/DOWN",-1 selectnoobjects FWIW, my problem is that on small Text Editors (.2 inches wide by .27 inches high) set to display a single digit, the numbers drift to the top of the cells on Mac and don't show at all on Windows. James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhdean at mac.com Fri Feb 17 17:40:32 2012 From: jhdean at mac.com (Jeff Dean) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:40:32 -0900 Subject: Save command error with applescript running In-Reply-To: <6F0B5A1B-3CED-4F1C-9FE3-9648D69490BE@mac.com> References: <6F0B5A1B-3CED-4F1C-9FE3-9648D69490BE@mac.com> Message-ID: <6023D4B6-488E-4392-BA31-2F7739B1F197@mac.com> I am still curious why saving while the script was active doesn't work and if there is a way to exit the script before it is finished in another application but I found a workaround. I put the save command in an executeasap variable after a 1 second pause and defined the executeasap variable just before the final rtn which finished what the script had called. fileglobal ExecuteASAP ExecuteASAP="undefine ExecuteASAP pausefor 1 save ;message {saved}" rtn pausefor is a custom statement with a nop in a timed loop. Jeff On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Jeff Dean wrote: > Hello, > > I am saving an xml file to disk and using executeapplescript to get Endicia to print the file. The Endicia postage program calls the following applescript when finished printing a batch. > > tell application "Panorama" > activate > Execute " window {Postage:Work} call .endiciaOutputStart" > end tell > > The .endiciaOutputStart procedure waits to see that the output file is created and then calls the procedure to import the output file. I have noticed that Endicia is still "tied up" until the import procedure has finished. I was hoping that adding the intermediate procedure would let the applescript be finished when the first procedure finished but it didn't seem to work that way. > > There is a save command at the end of the import procedure which saves the database after the import. It is generating a disk error. After this the database generates an error that it can't save because file such and such garble can't be found when manually trying to save and can't be saved until it is closed and reopened. > > I expect there is some conflict with the database being saved while the applescript is still active. The script Panorama is calling is also still active while Endicia is printing? I would like to be able to use Panorama while Endicia is processing a large batch. Does anyone know what may be going on and how to deal with it? Is there a way to for a program to free itself from a script after calling it and before any application it calls has finished? > > Thanks very much, > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From jim at provue.com Sat Feb 18 00:28:52 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:28:52 -0800 Subject: Server Admin Wizard bug Message-ID: Just found an interesting bug in this wizard -- it won't open properly if your server has been up for too long a time. The provue.com server has been up without interruption for 156 days, and that's enough to trigger this bug. (Note: The server is still running fine, you just can't open the Admin window.) Fortunately the fix was very easy. Here is a version of this wizard patched to correct this problem: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/716345/Downloads/Patches/Server%20Administration.zip If you need this, just unzip the file, then copy it into Applications:Panorama:Wizards:Sharing Of course another fix would be to quit and relaunch your server! Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jk at acaciasystems.com Sat Feb 18 09:29:38 2012 From: jk at acaciasystems.com (Jeff Kozuch) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:29:38 -0800 Subject: Bgground color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83F67099-723E-4B5C-A04E-1938AAB4BDCE@acaciasystems.com> I have a news file with procedures that are supposed to draw pages that have a black background when displayed in a browser. Two out of three have a white background but they all have the same code. Any ideas? Sample code: This page displays a black background: This page displays a white background: Thanks, Jeff Jeff Kozuch President, Acacia Systems Panorama Programming and Training Apple Certified Technical Coordinator Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network jk at acaciasystems.com http://www.acaciasystems.com 562-437-7690 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhdean at mac.com Sat Feb 18 10:32:49 2012 From: jhdean at mac.com (Jeff Dean) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:32:49 -0900 Subject: Bgground color In-Reply-To: <83F67099-723E-4B5C-A04E-1938AAB4BDCE@acaciasystems.com> References: <83F67099-723E-4B5C-A04E-1938AAB4BDCE@acaciasystems.com> Message-ID: <71E61C77-CC6B-4718-861A-4DEACA93553F@mac.com> You have probably thought of all this already. The color in the body tag would probably override it but do you have colors assigned by different style sheets for the pages? Also, you might test things by putting some other noticeable change in the body tag of the one displaying white to see if it is getting read. A different bicolor or font etc. Was it a recent change and the browser is using a cached page? Jeff On Feb 18, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Jeff Kozuch wrote: > I have a news file with procedures that are supposed to draw pages that have a black background when displayed in a browser. Two out of three have a white background but they all have the same code. Any ideas? > > Sample code: > > This page displays a black background: > > > This page displays a white background: > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > Jeff Kozuch > President, Acacia Systems > Panorama Programming and Training > Apple Certified Technical Coordinator > Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network > jk at acaciasystems.com > http://www.acaciasystems.com > 562-437-7690 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Mon Feb 20 00:34:30 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:34:30 -0800 Subject: Revised GetStockQuote Message-ID: As promised, I have rewritten the GetStockQuote statement to provide more information. You can download the text here. https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/g7irth This is backwards compatible with the version that comes with Panorama, but has some new features. It also incorporates the channel module within the statement. The channel module is no longer necessary. To install it, use the Custom Statements Wizard. In the _WebContentLib, double-click on GetStockQuote, and replace the text with the text in the file. Save it, and then close the window. Then register the new statement in the Statement menu, or use command-R. Note the following: The statement will work as before returning just the price quote, without the additional parameters. However, if you want any of the other parameters, you need to define variables for all of them. If you used the previous version to retrieve the 1 year target value of a stock, please note that it is now a numeric value in this version, rather than text. There are some data that I have not included in this. Some of it, like the change in price, can be computed from the data that is retrieved. I may add other data in the future. I can do the same trick to make it backwards compatible if I do. Please note that I supply this as is, with no guarantees. However, I think this version will be easier for someone else to update if it becomes necessary. Bruce De Benedictis From qnaweb at provue.com Mon Feb 20 04:43:36 2012 From: qnaweb at provue.com (John Kiska) Date: 20 Feb 2012 04:43:36 -0800 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 Message-ID: I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is a transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: Originally Submitted by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 10:55 AM: I'm trying to install Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows on a machine running Windows 7. I installed it while logged in as the administrator of the machine and all seemed to be working properly. When I logged out of the administrator account and back in under the user account and try to run Panorama a dialog box appears with the following message: "lib failed! C:\Program Files\Panorama\Extensions\Libraries\_PanoramaLib" Then when I open a file I get the message: "An error has occurred that is not your fault (Hunter fn). Press OK to return to the Finder." When I press OK Panorama closes. I then reinstalled Panorama. That caused problems with the registration because your servers saw the serial number already activated. I clicked the "Only one computer" button and that worked. But when I select "Registration" from the menus nothing appears. After reinstalling Panorama I'm still getting the "lib failed!" message. Please advise or call ASAP as I need to get this machine up and running. Thanks, John Reply by Tech Staff on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 11:41 AM: You have to run Panorama from an account with Administrator privileges. I have de-activated the serial number so that you can activate it again. But I think you'll need to re-install to get the Registration window to work, this is a known problem that so far we have been unable to track down. Reply by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:06 PM: Do I need to uninstall it first? If so, how do I do that in Windows 7? Panorama does not show up in the Uninstall control panel. Reply by Tech Staff on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:10 PM: No, you don't need to uninstall first. However, if you ever want to uninstall, see the instructions for doing a clean install: http://www.provue.com/Downloads/installfaq/index.html#How_do_I_do_a_clean_install_of_ How do I do a clean install of Panorama? Macintosh OS X In the Finder, open the Applications folder. Find the Panorama folder, drag it to the trash and empty the trash. Then re-install Panorama. Windows XP Using the Windows Explorer, open the C:\Program Files folder. Find the Panorama folder, drag the folder to the recycle bin, then re-install Panorama. Windows Vista/Windows 7 First, delete the C:\Program Files\Panorama folder as described above for Windows XP. Next, find this folder (replace {USER NAME} with your user name on this computer) C:\Users\{USER NAME}\AppData\Local\Panorama Drag the folder the recycle bin, then re-install Panorama. Reply by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:43 PM: The more I think about this situation, the less I understand the statement that: "You have to run Panorama from an account with Administrator privileges." In an office setting you don't users to be administrators of their machines because you loose control of what is installed on the machine. Secondly, the whole purpose of Panorama Direct is to allow the use of a predefined database. I have defined the database and I want one of my users to be able to access it from a network location, and I don't want him to be an administrator of his machine so I can control the contents of what is on the machine. I can't believe I'm the only one in this position. There has to be a way to allow a user to run Panorama Direct without being an administrator. Please advise. I have been a user of Panorama since it was Overview. I own several licenses both on the Mac side and now the Windows side. I sure hope we can work this out. Reply by Tech Staff on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:59 PM: Unfortunately, that is the way Microsoft has set it up in the Vista/Win7 world. Reply by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 1:18 PM: You have got to be kidding. The problem is not Microsoft. I'm a Mac guy, and I hate Windows, but this is not their fault. It is the way Panorama is written. We have several other programs that we are currently using on Windows 7 that are installed using an administrators account and run just fine under a non-administrators account. For example, Epicor, a fully integrated ERP program. This is totally unacceptable. End of incident. Can someone please tell me that this Tech Support person is incorrect. Even Microsoft doesn't make you run their software under an administrators account. If every program had to run under an administrators account there would be no need for non-administrator accounts, which is clearly not the case. How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a full version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on another machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full version I need to know that too. Thanks, John From ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com Mon Feb 20 05:23:37 2012 From: ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com (ronald.southwick) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:23:37 -0500 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F424959.3030900@tojfarm.com> I'm not a Windows expert but these ideas may help trigger someone else to add to a solution. If you right-click the Panorama icon, there is an option to run it as administrator. I turned this on and was able to run Pan on a non-administrator account, but I had to put in an administrator password, which seems pretty stupid. I tried changing the permissions so that the non-admin user had full control and that did not work. I tried changing the owner to the non-admin user and that did not help any either. I didn't try it, but there is a User Account Control setting that could be set to a lower setting. That is a security risk, but maybe that would turn off the need for an administrator password. Or maybe someone with more knowledge of Windows privileges can figure out the missing step to make Pan operate correctly. Ron John Kiska wrote: > I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is a transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: > > Can someone please tell me that this Tech Support person is incorrect. Even Microsoft doesn't make you run their software under an administrators account. If every program had to run under an administrators account there would be no need for non-administrator accounts, which is clearly not the case. > > How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a full version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on another machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full version I need to know that too. > > Thanks, > > John > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > From ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com Mon Feb 20 06:45:48 2012 From: ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com (ronald.southwick) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:45:48 -0500 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4F424959.3030900@tojfarm.com> References: <4F424959.3030900@tojfarm.com> Message-ID: <4F425C9C.9050405@tojfarm.com> Presidents' Day gave me time to poke around the internet. Maybe this will help: http://4sysops.com/archives/free-steel-run-as-let-standard-users-execute-with-administrator-rights/ Steel Run As solves a problem that every Windows administrator faces sooner or later. It allows you to let standard users run a specific program with administrator privileges. This works in login scripts, in Windows domains or on standalone workstations. Important is that the user doesn?t have to know the administrator?s password, like with the Windows runas command. Best of all is that Steel Run As is very easy to set up. Ron ronald.southwick wrote: > If you right-click the Panorama icon, there is an option to run it as > administrator. I turned this on and was able to run Pan on a > non-administrator account, but I had to put in an administrator > password, which seems pretty stupid. > John Kiska wrote: >> I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run >> under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is a >> transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: >> How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a >> non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a full >> version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on another >> machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there >> is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full >> version I need to know that too. From jmkiska at earthlink.net Mon Feb 20 09:06:35 2012 From: jmkiska at earthlink.net (John M. Kiska) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:06:35 -0500 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows under a non-administrators account on Windows 7 Message-ID: I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrators account on Windows 7. The following is a transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: Originally Submitted by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 10:55 AM I'm trying to install Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows on a machine running Windows 7. I installed it while logged in as the administrator of the machine and all seemed to be working properly. When I logged out of the administrator account and back in under the user account and try to run Panorama a dialog box appears with the following message: "lib failed! C:\Program Files\Panorama\Extensions\Libraries\_PanoramaLib" Then when I open a file I get the message: "An error has occurred that is not your fault (Hunter fn). Press OK to return to the Finder." When I press OK Panorama closes. I then reinstalled Panorama. That caused problems with the registration because your servers saw the serial number already activated. I clicked the "Only one computer" button and that worked. But when I select "Registration" from the menus nothing appears. After reinstalling Panorama I'm still getting the "lib failed!" message. Please advise or call ASAP as I need to get this machine up and running. Thanks, John Reply by Tech Staff on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 11:41 AM You have to run Panorama from an account with Administrator privileges. I have de-activated the serial number so that you can activate it again. But I think you'll need to re-install to get the Registration window to work, this is a known problem that so far we have been unable to track down. Reply by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:06 PM Do I need to uninstall it first? If so, how do I do that in Windows 7? Panorama does not show up in the Uninstall control panel. Reply by Tech Staff on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:10 PM No, you don't need to uninstall first. However, if you ever want to uninstall, see the instructions for doing a clean install: http://www.provue.com/Downloads/installfaq/index.html#How_do_I_do_a_clean_in stall_of_ How do I do a clean install of Panorama? Macintosh OS X In the Finder, open the Applications folder. Find the Panorama folder, drag it to the trash and empty the trash. Then re-install Panorama. Windows XP Using the Windows Explorer, open the C:\Program Files folder. Find the Panorama folder, drag the folder to the recycle bin, then re-install Panorama. Windows Vista/Windows 7 First, delete the C:\Program Files\Panorama folder as described above for Windows XP. Next, find this folder (replace {USER NAME} with your user name on this computer) C:\Users\{USER NAME}\AppData\Local\Panorama Drag the folder the recycle bin, then re-install Panorama. Reply by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:43 PM The more I think about this situation, the less I understand the statement that: "You have to run Panorama from an account with Administrator privileges." In an office setting you don't users to be administrators of their machines because you loose control of what is installed on the machine. Secondly, the whole purpose of Panorama Direct is to allow the use of a predefined database. I have defined the database and I want one of my users to be able to access it from a network location, and I don't want him to be an administrator of his machine so I can control the contents of what is on the machine. I can't believe I'm the only one in this position. There has to be a way to allow a user to run Panorama Direct without being an administrator. Please advise. I have been a user of Panorama since it was Overview. I own several licenses both on the Mac side and now the Windows side. I sure hope we can work this out. Reply by Tech Staff on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 12:59 PM Unfortunately, that is the way Microsoft has set it up in the Vista/Win7 world. Reply by John Kiska on Fri, February 17th, 2012 at 1:18 PM You have got to be kidding. The problem is not Microsoft. I'm a Mac guy, and I hate Windows, but this is not their fault. It is the way Panorama is written. We have several other programs that we are currently using on Windows 7 that are installed using an administrators account and run just fine under a non-administrators account. For example, Epicor, a fully integrated ERP program. This is totally unacceptable. End of incident. Can someone please tell me that this Tech Support person is incorrect. Even Microsoft doesn't make you run their software under an administrators account. If every program had to run under an administrators account there would be no need for non-administrator accounts, which is clearly not the case. How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a full version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on another machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full version I need to know that too. Thanks, John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmkiska at earthlink.net Mon Feb 20 09:23:09 2012 From: jmkiska at earthlink.net (John M. Kiska) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:23:09 -0500 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4F425C9C.9050405@tojfarm.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ron. I'll look at "Steel Run As". I'm no Windows expert either, so hopefully I figure out how to set it up. Sorry for the double post of my original message. I was having problems with my email this morning so I posted it through the website, then I just realized that my original message that was in my outbox finally sent. I'll let you know. Thanks again, John On 2/20/12 9:45 AM, "ronald.southwick" wrote: >Presidents' Day gave me time to poke around the internet. Maybe this >will help: > >http://4sysops.com/archives/free-steel-run-as-let-standard-users-execute-w >ith-administrator-rights/ > >Steel Run As solves a problem that every Windows administrator faces >sooner or later. It allows you to let standard users run a specific >program with administrator privileges. This works in login scripts, in >Windows domains or on standalone workstations. Important is that the >user doesn?t have to know the administrator?s password, like with the >Windows runas command. Best of all is that Steel Run As is very easy to >set up. > >Ron > >ronald.southwick wrote: > >> If you right-click the Panorama icon, there is an option to run it as >> administrator. I turned this on and was able to run Pan on a >> non-administrator account, but I had to put in an administrator >> password, which seems pretty stupid. > >> John Kiska wrote: >>> I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run >>> under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is a >>> transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: > >>> How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a >>> non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a full >>> version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on another >>> machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there >>> is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full >>> version I need to know that too. > From designer at quickdata.com Mon Feb 20 12:09:32 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:09:32 -0800 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4F425C9C.9050405@tojfarm.com> References: <4F424959.3030900@tojfarm.com> <4F425C9C.9050405@tojfarm.com> Message-ID: <4F42A87C.1040706@quickdata.com> How is that different from just right clicking on the app and selecting Run as Administrator? Paul QuickData On 2/20/12 6:45 AM, ronald.southwick wrote: > Presidents' Day gave me time to poke around the internet. Maybe this > will help: > > http://4sysops.com/archives/free-steel-run-as-let-standard-users-execute-with-administrator-rights/ > > > Steel Run As solves a problem that every Windows administrator faces > sooner or later. It allows you to let standard users run a specific > program with administrator privileges. This works in login scripts, in > Windows domains or on standalone workstations. Important is that the > user doesn?t have to know the administrator?s password, like with the > Windows runas command. Best of all is that Steel Run As is very easy > to set up. > > Ron > > ronald.southwick wrote: > >> If you right-click the Panorama icon, there is an option to run it as >> administrator. I turned this on and was able to run Pan on a >> non-administrator account, but I had to put in an administrator >> password, which seems pretty stupid. > >> John Kiska wrote: >>> I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to >>> run under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is >>> a transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: > >>> How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a >>> non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a >>> full version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on >>> another machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so >>> if there is anything different between the set up for Direct and The >>> full version I need to know that too. > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From designer at quickdata.com Mon Feb 20 12:11:24 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:11:24 -0800 Subject: Disregard previousRe: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4F424959.3030900@tojfarm.com> References: <4F424959.3030900@tojfarm.com> Message-ID: <4F42A8EC.4050808@quickdata.com> Ron, Oops - I was reading my email from most recent to oldest and didn't see this post before I asked about Run as Administrator - looks like you covered it here. Paul QuickData - but not this time :) On 2/20/12 5:23 AM, ronald.southwick wrote: > I'm not a Windows expert but these ideas may help trigger someone else > to add to a solution. > > If you right-click the Panorama icon, there is an option to run it as > administrator. I turned this on and was able to run Pan on a > non-administrator account, but I had to put in an administrator > password, which seems pretty stupid. > > I tried changing the permissions so that the non-admin user had full > control and that did not work. I tried changing the owner to the > non-admin user and that did not help any either. I didn't try it, but > there is a User Account Control setting that could be set to a lower > setting. That is a security risk, but maybe that would turn off the > need for an administrator password. > > Or maybe someone with more knowledge of Windows privileges can figure > out the missing step to make Pan operate correctly. > > Ron > > John Kiska wrote: >> I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to >> run under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is >> a transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: >> >> Can someone please tell me that this Tech Support person is >> incorrect. Even Microsoft doesn't make you run their software under >> an administrators account. If every program had to run under an >> administrators account there would be no need for non-administrator >> accounts, which is clearly not the case. >> >> How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a >> non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a >> full version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on >> another machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so >> if there is anything different between the set up for Direct and The >> full version I need to know that too. >> >> Thanks, >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From jmkiska at earthlink.net Tue Feb 21 08:54:13 2012 From: jmkiska at earthlink.net (John M. Kiska) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:54:13 -0500 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have looked at Ron's suggestion of using "Steel Run As" to solve my problem only to find that it would be a "paid" solution since I would have to purchase the program. I really don't think I should have to pay for a solution for a problem caused by Panorama 6 for Windows. It is obvious that Panorama for Windows needs to be fixed, or a free work around should be provided by ProVue. It makes no sense to say that it can only run under an administrators account. My original question still remains: How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a non-administrators account on Windows 7? I would appreciate a response directly from ProVue (Jim I hope you are reading this), but would welcome anything anyone else has to offer. I have also purchased a full version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on another machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full version I need to know that too. Thanks, John On 2/20/12 12:23 PM, "John M. Kiska" wrote: >Thanks Ron. I'll look at "Steel Run As". I'm no Windows expert either, >so hopefully I figure out how to set it up. > >Sorry for the double post of my original message. I was having problems >with my email this morning so I posted it through the website, then I >just >realized that my original message that was in my outbox finally sent. > >I'll let you know. > >Thanks again, > >John > >On 2/20/12 9:45 AM, "ronald.southwick" >wrote: > >>Presidents' Day gave me time to poke around the internet. Maybe this >>will help: >> >>http://4sysops.com/archives/free-steel-run-as-let-standard-users-execute- >>w >>ith-administrator-rights/ >> >>Steel Run As solves a problem that every Windows administrator faces >>sooner or later. It allows you to let standard users run a specific >>program with administrator privileges. This works in login scripts, in >>Windows domains or on standalone workstations. Important is that the >>user doesn?t have to know the administrator?s password, like with the >>Windows runas command. Best of all is that Steel Run As is very easy to >>set up. >> >>Ron >> >>ronald.southwick wrote: >> >>> If you right-click the Panorama icon, there is an option to run it as >>> administrator. I turned this on and was able to run Pan on a >>> non-administrator account, but I had to put in an administrator >>> password, which seems pretty stupid. >> >>> John Kiska wrote: >>>> I'm having issues trying to get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to >>>>run >>>> under a non-administrator account on Windows 7. The following is a >>>> transcript of Tech Support Incident: 17243310: >> >>>> How do I get Panorama Direct 6.0 for Windows to run under a >>>> non-administrators account on Windows 7? I have also purchased a >>>>full >>>> version of Panorama 6.0 for Windows which I hope to install on >>>>another >>>> machine using a non-administrators account on Windows 7, so if there >>>> is anything different between the set up for Direct and The full >>>> version I need to know that too. From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Tue Feb 21 12:03:12 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:03:12 -0800 Subject: Revised GetStockQuote In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought with the 3-day weekend it might be safe to tweak this a bit, but I should let anyone who worked with it know that I made some minor changes. I fixed the Previous Close part, and I added the ex-dividend date. If somehow you did downloaded this statement before noon today, please download it again, and if you used it in a procedure, you will have to add an additional variable for the ex-dividend date. Bruce De Benedictis > As promised, I have rewritten the GetStockQuote statement to provide more > information. You can download the text here. > > https://files.me.com/bruce_de_benedictis/g7irth > > This is backwards compatible with the version that comes with Panorama, but > has some new features. It also incorporates the channel module within the > statement. The channel module is no longer necessary. > > To install it, use the Custom Statements Wizard. In the _WebContentLib, > double-click on GetStockQuote, and replace the text with the text in the > file. Save it, and then close the window. Then register the new statement in > the Statement menu, or use command-R. > > Note the following: > > The statement will work as before returning just the price quote, without > the additional parameters. However, if you want any of the other parameters, > you need to define variables for all of them. > > If you used the previous version to retrieve the 1 year target value of a > stock, please note that it is now a numeric value in this version, rather > than text. > > There are some data that I have not included in this. Some of it, like the > change in price, can be computed from the data that is retrieved. I may add > other data in the future. I can do the same trick to make it backwards > compatible if I do. > > Please note that I supply this as is, with no guarantees. However, I think > this version will be easier for someone else to update if it becomes > necessary. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From jk at acaciasystems.com Tue Feb 21 14:46:32 2012 From: jk at acaciasystems.com (Jeff Kozuch) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:46:32 -0800 Subject: Bgground color In-Reply-To: <71E61C77-CC6B-4718-861A-4DEACA93553F@mac.com> References: <83F67099-723E-4B5C-A04E-1938AAB4BDCE@acaciasystems.com> <71E61C77-CC6B-4718-861A-4DEACA93553F@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jeff. Yes, I had thought of those things and probably asked out of frustration. Once I had the time to look carefully, I forgot two closing tags. Thanks for the feedback though. Jeff On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Dean wrote: > You have probably thought of all this already. The color in the body tag would probably override it but do you have colors assigned by different style sheets for the pages? Also, you might test things by putting some other noticeable change in the body tag of the one displaying white to see if it is getting read. A different bicolor or font etc. Was it a recent change and the browser is using a cached page? > > Jeff > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Jeff Kozuch wrote: > >> I have a news file with procedures that are supposed to draw pages that have a black background when displayed in a browser. Two out of three have a white background but they all have the same code. Any ideas? From qnaweb at provue.com Wed Feb 22 06:16:05 2012 From: qnaweb at provue.com (Edward White) Date: 22 Feb 2012 06:16:05 -0800 Subject: Relations Message-ID: Hello, I read somewhere that Panorama can handle Relations between two files. I have two files in memory: (1) A students' File and (2) a Results file. The Students' File contains the fields: St_Number, Name, Address. The Results File contains the fields: St_Number, Subject, Mark, Grade. I wish to use a student's name from the Student' file to get his exam results from the Results file. But I don't know how to do this as I am very new to Panorama. I tried to use the Lookup() function, but its use in the documentation is confined to a single database. Any hely would be appreciated. Sincerely, Eamonn From trackmanpete at comcast.net Wed Feb 22 06:26:17 2012 From: trackmanpete at comcast.net (Pete Schuder) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:17 -0500 Subject: Relations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F44FB09.7070409@comcast.net> You will need to have both database files open to do a lookup from the Results file. You can then select the St_Number as the common field. If you want to post the student's name in the second file, you will need to add a field for that purpose. Pete Schuder On 2/22/12 9:16 AM, Edward White wrote: > Hello, > I read somewhere that Panorama can handle Relations between two files. > I have two files in memory: > (1) A students' File and (2) a Results file. > The Students' File contains the fields: St_Number, Name, Address. > The Results File contains the fields: St_Number, Subject, Mark, Grade. > I wish to use a student's name from the Student' file to get his exam results from the Results file. > But I don't know how to do this as I am very new to Panorama. > I tried to use the Lookup() function, but its use in the documentation is confined to a single database. > Any hely would be appreciated. > Sincerely, > Eamonn > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > From jimmyjjet at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 06:33:59 2012 From: jimmyjjet at gmail.com (Jimmy Jet) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:33:59 -0500 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Has anyone got an answered this yet? We were ready to go to windows 7. Is it a problem to run panarama on it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com Wed Feb 22 08:09:57 2012 From: ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com (ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:09:57 -0700 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 Message-ID: <20120222090957.3e6d03a1ddc88567bf27e69e7f78d67f.a81d2c2733.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Wed Feb 22 08:30:04 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:30:04 -0800 Subject: Relations In-Reply-To: <4F44FB09.7070409@comcast.net> Message-ID: Or if you do not want to add a field, you can look up the student's name on any form where you want to show it. You have flexibility. Putting data in a field means if it changes in one file, it does not have to change in the other. Looking data up on a form means that if it changes, the change will be reflected in the other file wherever it occurs. Bruce De Benedictis > You will need to have both database files open to do a lookup from the > Results file. You can then select the St_Number as the common field. > If you want to post the student's name in the second file, you will need > to add a field for that purpose. > > Pete Schuder > > On 2/22/12 9:16 AM, Edward White wrote: >> Hello, >> I read somewhere that Panorama can handle Relations between two files. >> I have two files in memory: >> (1) A students' File and (2) a Results file. >> The Students' File contains the fields: St_Number, Name, Address. >> The Results File contains the fields: St_Number, Subject, Mark, Grade. >> I wish to use a student's name from the Student' file to get his exam >> results from the Results file. >> But I don't know how to do this as I am very new to Panorama. >> I tried to use the Lookup() function, but its use in the documentation is >> confined to a single database. >> Any hely would be appreciated. >> Sincerely, >> Eamonn >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From designer at quickdata.com Wed Feb 22 10:36:55 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:36:55 -0800 Subject: Relations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4535C7.2010101@quickdata.com> Eanmonn, The Lookup () function is NOT comfined to a single database. In fact, it most often is used just as you'd imagine. "bringing over" the results data for a student by matching on the address in the student file. HOWEVER: there are some design considerations. Think back to yesteryear when you were a student... How often where you the single student at the address where you were residing - be it a Dorm, Fraternity or off campus living. My guess is you will have more than one student at any St_Number address. So I'd be amazied if your Result file doesn't contain more unique matching options. At the community college I occasionally help, all students have a unique ID number and that is used to tie their data together. If they didn't have that, then sometimes you have to combine two or more fields into one and use that to create a unique ID. So you are absolutely on the right track with LookUp, but I'm guessing you will run into grief if your only "ID" is a street address. Paul One of the several residence in a house on Snowbrush Dr QuickData On 2/22/12 6:16 AM, Edward White wrote: > Hello, > I read somewhere that Panorama can handle Relations between two files. > I have two files in memory: > (1) A students' File and (2) a Results file. > The Students' File contains the fields: St_Number, Name, Address. > The Results File contains the fields: St_Number, Subject, Mark, Grade. > I wish to use a student's name from the Student' file to get his exam results from the Results file. > But I don't know how to do this as I am very new to Panorama. > I tried to use the Lookup() function, but its use in the documentation is confined to a single database. > Any hely would be appreciated. > Sincerely, > Eamonn > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From designer at quickdata.com Wed Feb 22 10:43:31 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:43:31 -0800 Subject: Running Panorama Direct 6.0 using a non-administrators account on Windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F453753.5020208@quickdata.com> Jimmy, Just a note that I run Panorama on Windows 7 all day long so it isn't a matter of Panorama and Windows 7; it might have to do with privilege settings in Win 7. I can tell you that at a local community college, students enter data into one Panorama file. they use the same computer but I'm guessing they are not given "admin" privileges. So I'm guessing if permission settings are needed, they don't have to be full Admin. I'm only making this comment because your issue seems to be with permission settings in the Win 7 OS, not just Panorama VS Win 7. Paul QuickData On 2/22/12 6:33 AM, Jimmy Jet wrote: > > Has anyone got an answered this yet? We were ready to go to windows 7. > Is it a problem to run panarama on it? > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From devine at sonic.net Wed Feb 22 09:59:29 2012 From: devine at sonic.net (J.T. Devine) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:59:29 -0800 Subject: Relations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8194CC82-16E2-4D90-97FD-9640862607AE@sonic.net> In the lookup( function(s), the first parameter designates the file that contains the info you're looking for. That file just has to be open, secretly or otherwise. On Wed2 /22/12, at 6:16 AM, Edward White wrote: > I tried to use the Lookup() function, but its use in the > documentation is confined to a single database. > Any hely would be appreciated. J.T. 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URL: From ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com Wed Feb 22 17:14:18 2012 From: ronald.southwick at tojfarm.com (ronald.southwick) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:14:18 -0500 Subject: Relations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4592EA.90908@tojfarm.com> If I understand you correctly, you have a form in the Student's file which is showing the name and you want it to show some information in the Results file. So on the form make a new text display box, choose "Lookup" from the functions menu, and answer the questions. (Like others have said, make sure the Results database is open.) When you are done you will have something like this in the box: lookup("Results","st_number",?st_number?,"Grade","",0). When you exit the editing mode, the grade of whichever student you are on should appear in the box. There is one thing to remember...if the student has two different grades in the Results file, only one will be returned. Note to QuickData - I think St_Number is a student number not a street number. Ron Edward White wrote: > I have two files in memory: > (1) A students' File and (2) a Results file. > The Students' File contains the fields: St_Number, Name, Address. > The Results File contains the fields: St_Number, Subject, Mark, Grade. > I wish to use a student's name from the Student' file to get his exam results from the Results file. From Jim at JamesCook.biz Wed Feb 22 17:28:40 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:28:40 -0500 Subject: Upgrade to version 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Open the Available Servers Wizard. Go to the Servers menu and tur up the Bonjour Threshold. On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:59 PM, geoffroy tremblay wrote: > hi all, > > i got quite a peculiar problem, quite intermitent connection to the server, I am not sure what would causes that > > you can see how intermitent it is here : > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3372484/panorama_server_fail_to_connect.swf > > when I connect with the client it connects 1 out of 10 times and has you can see on the video it's as is the server wasn't available > most of the time. > > I am on 10.6.8 client with 10.7 server running the latest version of panorama. > > thanks ! > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beauche at roadrunner.com Thu Feb 23 00:21:51 2012 From: beauche at roadrunner.com (George Beauchemin) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:21:51 -0800 Subject: Channel Deactivation Message-ID: How do you deactivate a channel? I was trying to do a bulk email and since that time a simple QuicKeys Hot Key procedure that I use to paste an email into a record does not work. The email address is truncated to ?com?. Regardless of field I try to use it in. And for other databases. I am sure that it was when I farted around with the email channel. Python. Just today. I also tried disabling a procedure that is enabled when the field is changed but eliminating the auto procedure did squat. I went into time machine and brought up an earlier version of the database and same problem. The problem has replicated itself to other databases. I have used this HotKeys shortcut for years. It is not so much the precise HotKey command I desire but could other nefarious things be happening? The battle for emailing from Panorama will resume later. Thanks. Best Regards, George This email was transmitted utilizing solely recycled electrons. No electrons were harmed or destroyed in the process. All electrons employed in this transmission were at least 18 years old. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Thu Feb 23 07:39:41 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:39:41 +0000 Subject: Channel Deactivation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A channel is only active when it is used. Once opened, the Email_Python database that contains the procedure will remain open as a secret database until Panorama quits, or you fully open the database, and then close it. It does not open automatically when Panorama launches. I can't think of any reason why it should matter if that database is open or not. I think there is something else going on. Dave ________________________________ From: George Beauchemin [beauche at roadrunner.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:21 AM To: qna at provue.com Subject: Channel Deactivation How do you deactivate a channel? I was trying to do a bulk email and since that time a simple QuicKeys Hot Key procedure that I use to paste an email into a record does not work. The email address is truncated to ?com?. Regardless of field I try to use it in. And for other databases. I am sure that it was when I farted around with the email channel. Python. Just today. I also tried disabling a procedure that is enabled when the field is changed but eliminating the auto procedure did squat. I went into time machine and brought up an earlier version of the database and same problem. The problem has replicated itself to other databases. I have used this HotKeys shortcut for years. It is not so much the precise HotKey command I desire but could other nefarious things be happening? 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The length of what's inside the ( ) varies. thanks bk Barry Kahn Caravan Beads, Inc. 915 Forest Ave Portland ME 04103 800-230-8941 fax: 207-874-2664 www.caravanbeads.net barryk at caravanbeads.net *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ From gary at yonaites.com Thu Feb 23 09:47:39 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:47:39 -0700 Subject: wild card in find and replace In-Reply-To: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> References: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: Use the tagstrip( function to remove the parentheses and enclosed text and the arraystrip( to remove the leftover extra blanks: local thetext thetext="blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah" message arraystrip(tagstrip(thetext,"(",")")," ") Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Barry Kahn wrote: > Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? For example, say I have strings which include stuff between parentheses: > > blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah > > and I'd like to replace the parentheses plus whatever they contain with nothing "" > > Can it be done? > > The length of what's inside the ( ) varies. > > thanks > bk > > > Barry Kahn > Caravan Beads, Inc. > 915 Forest Ave > Portland ME 04103 > 800-230-8941 > fax: 207-874-2664 > www.caravanbeads.net > barryk at caravanbeads.net > > *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ > > *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From kjmeyer at mac.com Thu Feb 23 09:53:59 2012 From: kjmeyer at mac.com (Kurt J. Meyer) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:53:59 +0100 Subject: wild card in find and replace In-Reply-To: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> References: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: Am 23.02.2012 um 18:03 schrieb Barry Kahn: > Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? You can search for wildcard expressions. I am not quite sure if you can use them for replacing. But with your data syntax > blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah I would use the snip( function to remove characters out of the middle of a text. You can use the search( function to find the start positions as parameters for the snip( function: the "(" and ")". From barryk at caravanbeads.net Thu Feb 23 10:09:52 2012 From: barryk at caravanbeads.net (Barry Kahn) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:09:52 -0500 Subject: wild card in find and replace In-Reply-To: References: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: Thanks! I keep forgetting about the super useful tag functions? b > Use the tagstrip( function to remove the parentheses and enclosed text and the arraystrip( to remove the leftover extra blanks: > > local thetext > thetext="blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah" > message arraystrip(tagstrip(thetext,"(",")")," ") > > Gary > gary at yonaites.com > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Barry Kahn wrote: > >> Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? For example, say I have strings which include stuff between parentheses: >> >> blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah >> >> and I'd like to replace the parentheses plus whatever they contain with nothing "" >> >> Can it be done? >> >> The length of what's inside the ( ) varies. >> >> thanks >> bk >> >> >> Barry Kahn >> Caravan Beads, Inc. >> 915 Forest Ave >> Portland ME 04103 >> 800-230-8941 >> fax: 207-874-2664 >> www.caravanbeads.net >> barryk at caravanbeads.net >> >> *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ >> >> *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna Barry Kahn Caravan Beads, Inc. 915 Forest Ave Portland ME 04103 800-230-8941 fax: 207-874-2664 www.caravanbeads.net barryk at caravanbeads.net *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ From jim at provue.com Thu Feb 23 10:26:03 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:26:03 -0800 Subject: wild card in find and replace In-Reply-To: References: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: Wow - I forgot about the snip( function myself -- and I wrote it! I had to go look in the programming reference to see exactly what it did :) Jim On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Kurt J. Meyer wrote: > > Am 23.02.2012 um 18:03 schrieb Barry Kahn: > > > Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? > > You can search for wildcard expressions. I am not quite sure if you can > use them for replacing. > > But with your data syntax > > blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah > I would use the snip( function to remove characters out of the middle of a > text. You can use the search( function to find the start positions as > parameters for the snip( function: the "(" and ")". > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at gomiddleton.com Thu Feb 23 10:33:26 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:33:26 -0500 Subject: wild card in find and replace In-Reply-To: References: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: <284D6BAA-6F3E-4FE1-9BB0-DBCFE1C69845@gomiddleton.com> Age is a harsh reality. :) Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > Wow - I forgot about the snip( function myself -- and I wrote it! I had to go look in the programming reference to see exactly what it did :) > > Jim > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Kurt J. Meyer wrote: > > Am 23.02.2012 um 18:03 schrieb Barry Kahn: > > > Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? > > You can search for wildcard expressions. I am not quite sure if you can use them for replacing. > > But with your data syntax > > blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah > I would use the snip( function to remove characters out of the middle of a text. You can use the search( function to find the start positions as parameters for the snip( function: the "(" and ")". > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From wahib at gsc2000.com Thu Feb 23 12:09:16 2012 From: wahib at gsc2000.com (Wahib Afyouni) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:09:16 +0400 Subject: Analyzing data Message-ID: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> I have a file with daily sales covering several years. I would like to find out which day(s) of the year has the highest average amount of sales. It is something like grouping the data for each day of the year (for example grouping all Jan 15th, 16th...) and taking the average of each and then sorting. Can this be done at all ? <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Best Regards Dr. Wahib S. Afyouni Managing Director Gulf Scientific Corporation, Dubai (www.gsc2000.com) Mobile : +971-50-644-0133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Celebrating 22 years of scientific support excellence (1990-2012) --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From designer at quickdata.com Thu Feb 23 12:37:24 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:37:24 -0800 Subject: Analyzing data In-Reply-To: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> References: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> Message-ID: <4F46A384.4050706@quickdata.com> Wahib, First do a SaveAs so you don't mess with your original data. Then, assuming you have a field of the date of sale(date type field) and a field with the sale amount on that day (numeric field), I'd think you could group up on the date field by day, then under the Math menu, Total on the Sales field. Assuming all the dates were the same format, you could also group up if they were just Text - because you will be sorting on the dollar amount, not the date. Then you can Remove Detail so you are left with just the totals per day (that's why you do a SaveAs first), then Sort Down on the Sales field. The top sales days will be at the top of the list. Note that when you ask for the highest "average" amount it is confusing compared to wanting just which day has the highest sales. For the highest average, there are more steps - summing the totals per day, dividing by the number of sales for that day, etc. All doable. But after all that extra work, do you think it will give you a radical difference than just using the totals for the day? "Average" is a nice pedestrian term, everyone uses it. But it is like everyone using Excel when they should use a database for what they are doing. If you had four sales in a day, say $5, $5, $5, $5, $100 and you averaged them to $24 a day and based additional decisions on that, do you think $24 a day really represents what happened? My point is, there are other measures - middle amount, most common amount, etc. that can be more representative than Average. But they ALL take more work. And if you are just wondering which days had more sales dollars than others, the simple total may be good enough. That is, the top five might change their place with respect to one another depending upon the measure, but the top five will probably not change place with the days 10 to 15 (lower 1/3 of the top 15) based on totals. Paul QuickData On 2/23/2012 12:09 PM, Wahib Afyouni wrote: > I have a file with daily sales covering several years. I would like to > find out which day(s) of the year has the highest average amount of > sales. It is something like grouping the data for each day of the year > (for example grouping all Jan 15th, 16th...) and taking the average of > each and then sorting. > > Can this be done at all ? > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Best Regards > > Dr. Wahib S. Afyouni > Managing Director > Gulf Scientific Corporation, Dubai (www.gsc2000.com > ) > Mobile : +971-50-644-0133 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Celebrating 22 years of scientific support excellence (1990-2012) > --- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net Thu Feb 23 09:24:15 2012 From: samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net (Sam Rutherford) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:24:15 -0600 Subject: wild card in find and replace In-Reply-To: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> References: <30D8EA50-F7F6-4FA0-B05C-9B79AC7A91CF@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: <92EEF4D6-4AD6-474A-BBB0-9ED56E2C94C9@musiccitymetals.net> thetext[1, '('][1, -2] + thetext[')', -1][2, -1] ________________________________________________________________ On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Barry Kahn wrote: > Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? For example, say I have strings which include stuff between parentheses: > > blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah > > and I'd like to replace the parentheses plus whatever they contain with nothing "" > > Can it be done? > > The length of what's inside the ( ) varies. > > thanks > bk > > > Barry Kahn > Caravan Beads, Inc. > 915 Forest Ave > Portland ME 04103 > 800-230-8941 > fax: 207-874-2664 > www.caravanbeads.net > barryk at caravanbeads.net > > *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ > > *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > ________________________________________________________________ Sam Rutherford Music City Metals 615/255-4481 samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net From csw at me.com Thu Feb 23 12:15:39 2012 From: csw at me.com (chris watts) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:15:39 -0800 Subject: Analyzing data In-Reply-To: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> References: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> Message-ID: You have pretty much described the process- you will need to make sure the Sales field is numeric, and once that is done, go to the date field and group by day. Go to the sales column and hit cmd-J (I think) and that will average the sales. You may want to collapse to level (1) If there are too many, export the collapsed database as text and reimport it, OR SAVE IT AS A NEW DATABASE and then remove detail. The you will be able to sort the database by sales. If you want to group Jan 16 2001 along with the same date in other years, make a new column and formulafill it with datepattern(yourdatefield, "MM/DD") and do your final average on that field. chris On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Wahib Afyouni wrote: > I have a file with daily sales covering several years. I would like to find out which day(s) of the year has the highest average amount of sales. It is something like grouping the data for each day of the year (for example grouping all Jan 15th, 16th...) and taking the average of each and then sorting. > > Can this be done at all ? > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Best Regards > > Dr. Wahib S. Afyouni > Managing Director > Gulf Scientific Corporation, Dubai (www.gsc2000.com) > Mobile : +971-50-644-0133 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Celebrating 22 years of scientific support excellence (1990-2012) --- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Thu Feb 23 13:18:30 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:30 +0000 Subject: Analyzing data In-Reply-To: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> References: <37FC1AE2-48CC-4F86-8774-0116CCC0003F@gsc2000.com> Message-ID: You would need a spare text field. Do a FormulaFill to fill that field with a date pattern that doesn't include the year. Something like FormulaFill datepattern(DateField, "Mon dd") Then you could group on that field, average on the sales field, go to outline level one, and sort down. Dave ________________________________ From: Wahib Afyouni [wahib at gsc2000.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:09 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Analyzing data I have a file with daily sales covering several years. I would like to find out which day(s) of the year has the highest average amount of sales. It is something like grouping the data for each day of the year (for example grouping all Jan 15th, 16th...) and taking the average of each and then sorting. Can this be done at all ? <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Best Regards Dr. Wahib S. 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A wealth of options! tbk > thetext[1, '('][1, -2] + thetext[')', -1][2, -1] > > ________________________________________________________________ > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Barry Kahn wrote: > >> Is there any way to search and replace using wild card expressions? For example, say I have strings which include stuff between parentheses: >> >> blah blah blah (various stuff) blah blah blah >> >> and I'd like to replace the parentheses plus whatever they contain with nothing "" >> >> Can it be done? >> >> The length of what's inside the ( ) varies. >> >> thanks >> bk >> >> >> Barry Kahn >> Caravan Beads, Inc. >> 915 Forest Ave >> Portland ME 04103 >> 800-230-8941 >> fax: 207-874-2664 >> www.caravanbeads.net >> barryk at caravanbeads.net >> >> *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ >> >> *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sam Rutherford > Music City Metals > 615/255-4481 > samrutherford at musiccitymetals.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna Barry Kahn Caravan Beads, Inc. 915 Forest Ave Portland ME 04103 800-230-8941 fax: 207-874-2664 www.caravanbeads.net barryk at caravanbeads.net From jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us Fri Feb 24 07:33:05 2012 From: jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us (Jeff Gold) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:33:05 -0500 Subject: Spell checking in data sheet. Message-ID: <151A1868-0A4E-4E52-B8C7-EA8892C953EA@state.ga.weo.us> Hello, What's the easiest way to incorporate "spell checking" while editing text in the data sheet? Is there an easy way to do this with Panorama, or is there a third-party utility one might recommend? I seem to remember there are a few utilities out there that let you "grab" text from any program, edit it, and automatically insert it back after spell-checking and such. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Best wishes, - Jeff From Jim at JamesCook.biz Fri Feb 24 07:41:07 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:41:07 -0500 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu Message-ID: <25BEBA02-9C26-416B-ABCD-35CEB3BFFE20@JamesCook.biz> For some reason I've lost the popup menu in the procedure editor windows. It has vanished occasionally in the past, but is cured with a Quit and relaunch. Today it's surviving restarts of both Panorama and of the machine. When I Control-Click or Right-Click I just get a tiny bubble. All other contextual menus continue to work. ?!?! This is a case where it would be handy to also have to old menus. James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at yonaites.com Fri Feb 24 08:19:35 2012 From: gary at yonaites.com (Gary Yonaites) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:19:35 -0700 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu In-Reply-To: <25BEBA02-9C26-416B-ABCD-35CEB3BFFE20@JamesCook.biz> References: <25BEBA02-9C26-416B-ABCD-35CEB3BFFE20@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <54A0142F-E78B-40CE-BBD4-CD4C001BCBE4@yonaites.com> Sounds like maybe Panorama needs to be reinstalled. In the meantime, you could use the Programming Assistant in place of the missing popup menu using command-' to activate it. I just wish this acted like a normal wizard and stayed open once activated. Gary gary at yonaites.com On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:41 AM, James Cook wrote: > > For some reason I've lost the popup menu in the procedure editor windows. It has vanished occasionally in the past, but is cured with a Quit and relaunch. Today it's surviving restarts of both Panorama and of the machine. When I Control-Click or Right-Click I just get a tiny bubble. > > All other contextual menus continue to work. ?!?! > > This is a case where it would be handy to also have to old menus. > > > James Cook > JC at JamesCook.biz > > Panorama Tutoring > Custom Panorama Applications > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > http://HSLtd.us > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim at JamesCook.biz Fri Feb 24 09:44:28 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:44:28 -0500 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu In-Reply-To: <54A0142F-E78B-40CE-BBD4-CD4C001BCBE4@yonaites.com> References: <25BEBA02-9C26-416B-ABCD-35CEB3BFFE20@JamesCook.biz> <54A0142F-E78B-40CE-BBD4-CD4C001BCBE4@yonaites.com> Message-ID: <4E87BDEA-CA32-4CC8-9CBB-2B74479DBF6C@JamesCook.biz> I was about to do a reinstall when it started showing up again. I had Quit and launched Panorama a few times in the interim, but don't know when the issue resolved itself. Go figure! The Programming Assistant is something I tend to forget about but was using it again today when I lost the menus. It would be nice if it could stick around - maybe I'd remember to use it more. On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > Sounds like maybe Panorama needs to be reinstalled. In the meantime, you could use the Programming Assistant in place of the missing popup menu using command-' to activate it. I just wish this acted like a normal wizard and stayed open once activated. James Cook Jim at JamesCook.biz http://JamesCook.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Fri Feb 24 10:31:11 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:31:11 -0800 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu In-Reply-To: <4E87BDEA-CA32-4CC8-9CBB-2B74479DBF6C@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: I find that certain items disappear and reappear from time to time in Panorama. When I was working on the stock information recently, I found that when I opened the source code for the channel through the preference window, if I opened the source for a second time without closing the channel preference window, the source window would leave artifacts on top of the preference window, and some things become problematic. I also find that occasionally as I switch windows, particularly if I minimize one of them and then bring it back, the menus for the window I choose do not show up, even if I click on the window. I am not certain why I am having these problems. Bruce De Benedictis > I was about to do a reinstall when it started showing up again. I had Quit and > launched Panorama a few times in the interim, but don't know when the issue > resolved itself. Go figure! > > The Programming Assistant is something I tend to forget about but was using it > again today when I lost the menus. It would be nice if it could stick around - > maybe I'd remember to use it more. > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Gary Yonaites wrote: > >> Sounds like maybe Panorama needs to be reinstalled. In the meantime, you >> could use the Programming Assistant in place of the missing popup menu using >> command-' to activate it. I just wish this acted like a normal wizard and >> stayed open once activated. > > > > James Cook > Jim at JamesCook.biz > > http://JamesCook.biz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From steve at gomiddleton.com Fri Feb 24 14:08:46 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:08:46 -0500 Subject: ObjectInfo Message-ID: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> Hello, I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am curious why? message objectinfo("#FORMULA") It will also crash if code is local x x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") message x This is triggered when a TESO is focused. Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. From Jim at JamesCook.biz Fri Feb 24 14:18:23 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:18:23 -0500 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> Ideally no error would cause a crash, but you don't show what precedes your message. Are you actually selecting an object first? If you are, is the formula problematic when designated as the contents for a message? This works for me: SelectObjects objectinfo("Type") contains "text" Message objectinfo("#FORMULA") On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: > Hello, > > I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am curious why? > > message objectinfo("#FORMULA") > > It will also crash if code is > > local x > x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") > message x > > This is triggered when a TESO is focused. > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > James Cook Jim at JamesCook.biz http://JamesCook.biz James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at gomiddleton.com Fri Feb 24 14:25:41 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:25:41 -0500 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> I am assuming that by setting this procedure to run on focus of the TESO that it would work. What I am trying to do is find out what variable I have assigned to a TESO that I am currently editing or exiting. Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:18 PM, James Cook wrote: > Ideally no error would cause a crash, but you don't show what precedes your message. Are you actually selecting an object first? If you are, is the formula problematic when designated as the contents for a message? > > This works for me: > SelectObjects objectinfo("Type") contains "text" > Message objectinfo("#FORMULA") > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am curious why? >> >> message objectinfo("#FORMULA") >> >> It will also crash if code is >> >> local x >> x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") >> message x >> >> This is triggered when a TESO is focused. >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve Middleton >> Middleton Printing >> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >> >> 616-247-8742 >> >> http://www.goMiddleton.com >> >> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > James Cook > Jim at JamesCook.biz > > http://JamesCook.biz > > > > > > > James Cook > JC at JamesCook.biz > > Panorama Tutoring > Custom Panorama Applications > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > http://HSLtd.us > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Fri Feb 24 14:56:03 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:56:03 +0000 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz>, <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: Try using info("trigger") instead. Objectinfo( doesn't return information about the object in focus. It returns information about a selected object. Objects are selected by a procedure, or manually in graphics mode, but not by putting them in focus. Dave ________________________________________ From: Steve Middleton [steve at gomiddleton.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 4:25 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: ObjectInfo I am assuming that by setting this procedure to run on focus of the TESO that it would work. What I am trying to do is find out what variable I have assigned to a TESO that I am currently editing or exiting. Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:18 PM, James Cook wrote: > Ideally no error would cause a crash, but you don't show what precedes your message. Are you actually selecting an object first? If you are, is the formula problematic when designated as the contents for a message? > > This works for me: > SelectObjects objectinfo("Type") contains "text" > Message objectinfo("#FORMULA") > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am curious why? >> >> message objectinfo("#FORMULA") >> >> It will also crash if code is >> >> local x >> x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") >> message x >> >> This is triggered when a TESO is focused. >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve Middleton >> Middleton Printing >> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >> >> 616-247-8742 >> >> http://www.goMiddleton.com >> >> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > James Cook > Jim at JamesCook.biz > > http://JamesCook.biz > > > > > > > James Cook > JC at JamesCook.biz > > Panorama Tutoring > Custom Panorama Applications > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > http://HSLtd.us > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From steve at goMiddleton.com Fri Feb 24 15:20:58 2012 From: steve at goMiddleton.com (steve middleton) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:20:58 -0500 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: Will info("trigger") tell me the variable associated with the TESO? Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! tm Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:56 PM, "Thompson, David" wrote: > Try using info("trigger") instead. Objectinfo( doesn't return information about the object in focus. It returns information about a selected object. Objects are selected by a procedure, or manually in graphics mode, but not by putting them in focus. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Steve Middleton [steve at gomiddleton.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 4:25 PM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: ObjectInfo > > I am assuming that by setting this procedure to run on focus of the TESO that it would work. > > What I am trying to do is find out what variable I have assigned to a TESO that I am currently editing or exiting. > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:18 PM, James Cook wrote: > >> Ideally no error would cause a crash, but you don't show what precedes your message. Are you actually selecting an object first? If you are, is the formula problematic when designated as the contents for a message? >> >> This works for me: >> SelectObjects objectinfo("Type") contains "text" >> Message objectinfo("#FORMULA") >> >> >> On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am curious why? >>> >>> message objectinfo("#FORMULA") >>> >>> It will also crash if code is >>> >>> local x >>> x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") >>> message x >>> >>> This is triggered when a TESO is focused. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Steve Middleton >>> Middleton Printing >>> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >>> >>> 616-247-8742 >>> >>> http://www.goMiddleton.com >>> >>> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >>> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >> >> James Cook >> Jim at JamesCook.biz >> >> http://JamesCook.biz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> James Cook >> JC at JamesCook.biz >> >> Panorama Tutoring >> Custom Panorama Applications >> Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web >> http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html >> >> Founder of HindSight Ltd. >> http://HSLtd.us >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From jim at provue.com Fri Feb 24 15:41:48 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:41:48 -0800 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: I think something like this might work, provided you have given a unique name to each of your text editor objects. local activeTESO activeTESO=info("activesuperobject") object activeTESO message objectinfo("#FORMULA") Caveat -- I have not tested this. Jim On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: > I am assuming that by setting this procedure to run on focus of the TESO > that it would work. > > What I am trying to do is find out what variable I have assigned to a TESO > that I am currently editing or exiting. > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to > produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, > Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:18 PM, James Cook wrote: > > > Ideally no error would cause a crash, but you don't show what precedes > your message. Are you actually selecting an object first? If you are, is > the formula problematic when designated as the contents for a message? > > > > This works for me: > > SelectObjects objectinfo("Type") contains "text" > > Message objectinfo("#FORMULA") > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am > curious why? > >> > >> message objectinfo("#FORMULA") > >> > >> It will also crash if code is > >> > >> local x > >> x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") > >> message x > >> > >> This is triggered when a TESO is focused. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Steve Middleton > >> Middleton Printing > >> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > >> > >> 616-247-8742 > >> > >> http://www.goMiddleton.com > >> > >> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to > produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, > Banners, > >> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Qna mailing list > >> Qna at provue.com > >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > >> > > > > James Cook > > Jim at JamesCook.biz > > > > http://JamesCook.biz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James Cook > > JC at JamesCook.biz > > > > Panorama Tutoring > > Custom Panorama Applications > > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > > http://HSLtd.us > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qna mailing list > > Qna at provue.com > > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! tm Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:56 PM, "Thompson, David" wrote: > Try using info("trigger") instead. Objectinfo( doesn't return information about the object in focus. It returns information about a selected object. Objects are selected by a procedure, or manually in graphics mode, but not by putting them in focus. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Steve Middleton [steve at gomiddleton.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 4:25 PM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: ObjectInfo > > I am assuming that by setting this procedure to run on focus of the TESO that it would work. > > What I am trying to do is find out what variable I have assigned to a TESO that I am currently editing or exiting. > > Thanks > > Steve Middleton > Middleton Printing > If It Sticks...We Do It! ? > > 616-247-8742 > > http://www.goMiddleton.com > > Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, > Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. > > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:18 PM, James Cook wrote: > >> Ideally no error would cause a crash, but you don't show what precedes your message. Are you actually selecting an object first? If you are, is the formula problematic when designated as the contents for a message? >> >> This works for me: >> SelectObjects objectinfo("Type") contains "text" >> Message objectinfo("#FORMULA") >> >> >> On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Steve Middleton wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have 1 line of code that will immediately crash Panorama. I am curious why? >>> >>> message objectinfo("#FORMULA") >>> >>> It will also crash if code is >>> >>> local x >>> x=objectinfo("#FORMULA") >>> message x >>> >>> This is triggered when a TESO is focused. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Steve Middleton >>> Middleton Printing >>> If It Sticks...We Do It! ? >>> >>> 616-247-8742 >>> >>> http://www.goMiddleton.com >>> >>> Middleton Printing has added new digital equipment that allows us to produce short run digital labels, window graphics, vinyl cut graphics, Banners, >>> Pop up banners etc. Call if you would like more information. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >> >> James Cook >> Jim at JamesCook.biz >> >> http://JamesCook.biz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> James Cook >> JC at JamesCook.biz >> >> Panorama Tutoring >> Custom Panorama Applications >> Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web >> http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html >> >> Founder of HindSight Ltd. >> http://HSLtd.us >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From nacnuddd at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 16:52:30 2012 From: nacnuddd at gmail.com (David Duncan) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:52:30 +1100 Subject: Zipping a file procedurally Message-ID: I'm trying to zip or archive a file on the Mac desktop from a Panorama procedure. For some time I have been trying to do this using Applescript, without success. I know it's possible using a shell script or Ruby, for example, but I have never scripted either language and I may never have to, except for this one thing, and it's an intimidating prospect to have to become familiar enough with either for this single purpose. It's probably also possible in AS but I'm hard up against my own limitations in that infuriating language. Does anyone have such a script they would let me use? David Duncan From steve at gomiddleton.com Sat Feb 25 05:28:20 2012 From: steve at gomiddleton.com (Steve Middleton) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:28:20 -0500 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> , Message-ID: <288C45B4-4D2B-4982-B4DE-04B70C8FA568@gomiddleton.com> Ok, I have changed the object name to include the variable name with some additional information. The object name now looks like this. N$2vCreditLimit. I am grabbing the first 3 characters to determine how I should format the number. N$2 prefix means Number, Dollar, 2 decimal places. My goal is to change this procedure so that it can be used for any field on any form to format a number in the way that I need when I enter a TESO or Exit a TESO. I have attached the procedure below in the TESO dialog box and set to execute it when Finished, Focus and I checked Handler. It works great if I hard code the variable assigned to the TESO, but I want the procedure to be smart, I want it to work with any TESO that I attach the procedure to. Here is the procedure, how can I change it to work with any TESO with the correct naming information. local x,vObject,vKind,vVariable /* N$2=Money, ND2=Number with how many decimal places*/ /*N$2vCreditLimit*/ vObject= info("activesuperobject") vKind=vObject[1,3] vVariable=vObject[4,-1] If vKind="N$2" Case info("trigger") contains "Focus" and vKind="N$2" x=str(vCreditLimit) x=val(stripchar(x,"09..")) vCreditLimit=x showvariables vCreditLimit case info("trigger") notcontains "Focus" and vKind="N$2" x=vCreditLimit vCreditLimit=pattern(x,"$#,.##") showvariables vCreditLimit EndCase EndIf If vObject="ND2" Case info("trigger") contains "Focus" and vObject="ND2" x=str(vCreditLimit) x=val(stripchar(x,"09..")) vCreditLimit=x showvariables vCreditLimit case info("trigger") notcontains "Focus" and vObject="ND2" x=vCreditLimit vCreditLimit=pattern(x,"#,.##") showvariables vCreditLimit EndCase EndIf Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > It will if you give the TESO the same name as the variable. Or you could give it a name like VariableName.SomeOtherInformation and then extract the variable name with an array( function. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: steve middleton [steve at goMiddleton.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:20 PM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: ObjectInfo > > Will info("trigger") tell me the variable associated with the TESO? > > From cwfrymire at modernminstrel.com Sat Feb 25 07:51:58 2012 From: cwfrymire at modernminstrel.com (Chris Frymire) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:51:58 -0600 Subject: Zipping a file procedurally In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This might help..... http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2011030403522197 On 2/24/12 6:52 PM, "David Duncan" wrote: > I'm trying to zip or archive a file on the Mac desktop from a Panorama > procedure. > > For some time I have been trying to do this using Applescript, without > success. I know it's possible using a shell script or Ruby, for > example, but I have never scripted either language and I may never > have to, except for this one thing, and it's an intimidating prospect > to have to become familiar enough with either for this single purpose. > It's probably also possible in AS but I'm hard up against my own > limitations in that infuriating language. > > Does anyone have such a script they would let me use? > > David Duncan > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Sat Feb 25 08:39:25 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:39:25 +0000 Subject: ObjectInfo In-Reply-To: <288C45B4-4D2B-4982-B4DE-04B70C8FA568@gomiddleton.com> References: <50E3ABAD-2AC1-41B0-8227-6AF52440C1C2@gomiddleton.com> <99829C1C-E9F8-4919-82BC-E19AC470BF21@JamesCook.biz> <3E9ECD66-5B61-4D5E-A2E3-976F6DB401A6@gomiddleton.com> , , <288C45B4-4D2B-4982-B4DE-04B70C8FA568@gomiddleton.com> Message-ID: vObject= info("activesuperobject") vKind=vObject[1,3] vVariable=vObject[4,-1] If info("trigger") contains "Focus" x=str(datavalue(vVariable)) x=val(stripchar(x,"09..")) Set vVariable,x Else x=datavalue(vVariable) Case vKind="N$2" Set vVariable,pattern(x,"$#,.##") Case vKind="ND2" Set vVariable,pattern(x,"#,.##") EndCase EndIf Execute "ShowVariables "+vVariable Dave ________________________________________ From: Steve Middleton [steve at gomiddleton.com] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:28 AM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: ObjectInfo Ok, I have changed the object name to include the variable name with some additional information. The object name now looks like this. N$2vCreditLimit. I am grabbing the first 3 characters to determine how I should format the number. N$2 prefix means Number, Dollar, 2 decimal places. My goal is to change this procedure so that it can be used for any field on any form to format a number in the way that I need when I enter a TESO or Exit a TESO. I have attached the procedure below in the TESO dialog box and set to execute it when Finished, Focus and I checked Handler. It works great if I hard code the variable assigned to the TESO, but I want the procedure to be smart, I want it to work with any TESO that I attach the procedure to. Here is the procedure, how can I change it to work with any TESO with the correct naming information. local x,vObject,vKind,vVariable /* N$2=Money, ND2=Number with how many decimal places*/ /*N$2vCreditLimit*/ vObject= info("activesuperobject") vKind=vObject[1,3] vVariable=vObject[4,-1] If vKind="N$2" Case info("trigger") contains "Focus" and vKind="N$2" x=str(vCreditLimit) x=val(stripchar(x,"09..")) vCreditLimit=x showvariables vCreditLimit case info("trigger") notcontains "Focus" and vKind="N$2" x=vCreditLimit vCreditLimit=pattern(x,"$#,.##") showvariables vCreditLimit EndCase EndIf If vObject="ND2" Case info("trigger") contains "Focus" and vObject="ND2" x=str(vCreditLimit) x=val(stripchar(x,"09..")) vCreditLimit=x showvariables vCreditLimit case info("trigger") notcontains "Focus" and vObject="ND2" x=vCreditLimit vCreditLimit=pattern(x,"#,.##") showvariables vCreditLimit EndCase EndIf Thanks Steve Middleton Middleton Printing If It Sticks...We Do It! ? 616-247-8742 http://www.goMiddleton.com On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > It will if you give the TESO the same name as the variable. Or you could give it a name like VariableName.SomeOtherInformation and then extract the variable name with an array( function. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: steve middleton [steve at goMiddleton.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:20 PM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: ObjectInfo > > Will info("trigger") tell me the variable associated with the TESO? > > _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From Jim at JamesCook.biz Sat Feb 25 09:43:56 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:43:56 -0500 Subject: Array Wish List Message-ID: It was in a Denver hotel room some years ago when Jim Rea showed me some changes to OverVUE that he was making. Among them was something he referred to as "arrays". I figured by his pride in it they must be nice, whatever the heck the ability to create lists would be good for. Since then, OverVUE became Panorama and arrays have become my favorite programming feature. Just look at the Panorama Reference to see all the array statement and functions. They can do just about anything, especially when nested inside other array processes. All that said, today I found a missing ingredient, so here it is on my wish list: arraycount I want the ability to collapse an array and get a count of like elements within it. arraycount oldarray,newarray,sep,joiner arraycount "a,b,c,a,d,b",AVariable,","," - " result: "a - 2,b - 2,c - 1,d - 1" Perhaps it could have another parameter to specify options other than counting. It can be done now, using loops and multiple arrays, but that would be really convenient and powerful. 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While we're talking terminology I think I would call the joiner parameter a sub separator. Then the description would be that this statement takes a one dimensional array and generates a two dimensional array listing each unique element in the original array along with the number of times that element occurs in the original array. Hey, that does sound like kind of a cool capability! Jim On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM, James Cook wrote: > > It was in a Denver hotel room some years ago when Jim Rea showed me some > changes to OverVUE that he was making. Among them was something he referred > to as "arrays". I figured by his pride in it they must be nice, whatever > the heck the ability to create lists would be good for. > > Since then, OverVUE became Panorama and arrays have become my favorite > programming feature. Just look at the Panorama Reference to see all the > array statement and functions. They can do just about anything, especially > when nested inside other array processes. > > All that said, today I found a missing ingredient, so here it is on my > wish list: arraycount > > I want the ability to collapse an array and get a count of like elements > within it. > > arraycount oldarray,newarray,sep,joiner > > arraycount "a,b,c,a,d,b",AVariable,","," - " > > result: "a - 2,b - 2,c - 1,d - 1" > > Perhaps it could have another parameter to specify options other than > counting. > > It can be done now, using loops and multiple arrays, but that would be > really convenient and powerful. > > > > James Cook > JC at JamesCook.biz > > Panorama Tutoring > Custom Panorama Applications > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > http://HSLtd.us > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Then the description would be that this statement takes a one dimensional array and generates a two dimensional array listing each unique element in the original array along with the number of times that element occurs in the original array. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Sat Feb 25 12:55:34 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:55:34 +0000 Subject: Array Wish List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was pretty sure I had seen something like this before. I dug this out of my archives. Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:27:47 -0500 To: From: David Thompson Subject: Re: Counting multiplecates in an array Reply-To: Sender: X-Status: X-Keywords: >I have arrays with distributed multiple element. These elements of >course can be grouped together by doing an ArraySort. What I'd like >to be able to do is get a count or the number of times each >replicated element appears in the array. ArrayDepluclicate will get >rid of the replications, but I'd like to know how many occurrences of >each replicated element were in the original array so I can make a >list or a new array that looks something like: > >"item1(12times),item2(once),item3(64times),etc,etc" > >I haven't been able to figure this one out. Any help will be appreciated. > >Jim Franzen This procedure assumes that your existing array is a colon separated array in a variable named MyArray. FileGlobal MyNewArray Local x ArraySort MyArray, MyArray,":" ArrayDeDuplicate MyArray, MyNewArray,":" ArrayFilter MyNewArray,x,":",arraysearch(MyArray,import(),1,":") x=x+":"+str(arraysize(MyArray,":")+1) ArrayFilter MyNewArray, MyNewArray,":",import()+"("+pattern(val(array(x,seq()+1,":"))-val(array(x,seq(), ":")),"# time~")+")" Dave ________________________________ From: James Cook [Jim at JamesCook.biz] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:43 AM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Array Wish List It was in a Denver hotel room some years ago when Jim Rea showed me some changes to OverVUE that he was making. Among them was something he referred to as "arrays". I figured by his pride in it they must be nice, whatever the heck the ability to create lists would be good for. Since then, OverVUE became Panorama and arrays have become my favorite programming feature. Just look at the Panorama Reference to see all the array statement and functions. 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David From qnaweb at provue.com Sat Feb 25 20:04:23 2012 From: qnaweb at provue.com (Ron Bolinger) Date: 25 Feb 2012 20:04:23 -0800 Subject: Classical Music ( Message-ID: From qnaweb at provue.com Sat Feb 25 20:08:27 2012 From: qnaweb at provue.com (Ron Bolinger) Date: 25 Feb 2012 20:08:27 -0800 Subject: Classical Music (CD) Catalog DB application Message-ID: I'm wondering if anyone using Panorama has created a music database, specifically one for cataloging classical CDs. I use iTunes, of course, and it does a minimal job of organizing the albums that are imported and purchased, but you can't change how iTunes works to fit your needs and I'm looking for something more flexible. Any thoughts would be appreciated. BTW, I've looked at Delicious and Collectorz for this purpose and I don't feel they work very well. Thanks From leehumanmd at cox.net Sat Feb 25 22:43:25 2012 From: leehumanmd at cox.net (Lee Human) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:43:25 -0800 Subject: Classical Music (CD) Catalog DB application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might take a look at CDPedia by Bruji (http://www.bruji.com). Lee Human On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Ron Bolinger wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone using Panorama has created a music database, specifically one for cataloging classical CDs. > > I use iTunes, of course, and it does a minimal job of organizing the albums that are imported and purchased, but you can't change how iTunes works to fit your needs and I'm looking for something more flexible. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > BTW, I've looked at Delicious and Collectorz for this purpose and I don't feel they work very well. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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IncomingArray = lvTemp James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It subtracts 1 from 3 to find out how many times a appears, 3 from 5 for b, 5 from 6 for c, and 6 from 7 for d. The array now reads "a(2 times):b(2 times):c(1 time):d(1 time)"*/ Here is a custom ARRAYELEMENTCOUNT statement, using the same algorithm. It might be possible to improve on this with the help of the assign( function. /* This statement takes an array with duplicated elements, and returns a deduplicated array,where each element consists of an element from the original array and a frequency count. The frequency count is the number of times the element occurs in the original array. The original element and the frequency count are separated by a joiner of one or more characters. The original array, with all the elements A field or variable to receive the deduplicated array with frequency count The array separator The joiner between each element and its respective frequency count arrayelementcount "a,b,c,a,d,b",AVariable,","," - "

result: "a - 2,b - 2,c - 1,d - 1" */ // TYPE IN THE PROCEDURE CODE BELOW Local x,InputArray,OutputArray,Sep,Join InputArray=parameter(1) if error rtnerror info("error") endif Sep=parameter(3)[1,1] if error rtnerror info("error") endif Join=parameter(4) if error rtnerror info("error") endif ArraySort InputArray, InputArray,Sep ArrayDeDuplicate InputArray, OutputArray,Sep ArrayFilter OutputArray,x,Sep,arraysearch(InputArray,import(),1,Sep) x=x+Sep+str(arraysize(InputArray,Sep)+1) ArrayFilter OutputArray, OutputArray,Sep,import()+Join+str(val(array(x,seq()+1,Sep))-val(array(x,seq(), Sep))) SetParameter 2, OutputArray if error rtnerror info("error") endif ________________________________ From: James Cook [Jim at JamesCook.biz] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:27 AM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: Array Wish List I have yet to break down the example David sent yesterday but here's mine. Although I wanted to do it without loops, this was the best I came up with to do an array element count: Local lvFull, lvShort, lvCycle, lvTemp, lvCount, lvItem Local lvSep, lvJoin lvSep = ? lvJoin = " - " lvFull = IncomingArray ArrayDeDuplicate lvFull,lvShort,? lvCycle = 1 lvTemp="" Loop lvItem = array(lvShort,lvCycle,?) arrayfilter lvFull,lvCount,?,?(import() = lvItem,"x","") lvTemp = sandwich("",lvTemp,lvSep)+lvItem+lvJoin+pattern(arraysize(arraystrip(lvCount,?),?),"#,") lvCycle=lvCycle+1 Until arraysize(lvShort,?) IncomingArray = lvTemp James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barryk at caravanbeads.net Mon Feb 27 06:29:10 2012 From: barryk at caravanbeads.net (Barry Kahn) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:29:10 -0500 Subject: loop through a list Message-ID: <8090E980-2D6E-4A05-AC3D-3F969821B588@caravanbeads.net> I'd like to modify the procedure below so that it loops through a list of item number prefixes and stops when the list ends. Is that something one does with an array? I've no clue. Also would it make more sense to store the contents of each pass through the loop in an array and then transfer it all in one go into the MiyukiSalesRankings database? Thanks, bk Select ItemNum beginswith "10C-" Field SalesHistory Sortdown Field LocationCount sequence "1 1" local theExportText arrayselectedbuild theExportText, ? ,"",ItemNum+?+Description+?+str(LocationCount) OpenFile "MiyukiSalesRankings" Window "MiyukiSalesRankings" OpenFile "+ at theExportText" Barry Kahn Caravan Beads, Inc. 915 Forest Ave Portland ME 04103 800-230-8941 fax: 207-874-2664 www.caravanbeads.net barryk at caravanbeads.net *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ From Jim at JamesCook.biz Mon Feb 27 06:40:35 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:40:35 -0500 Subject: loop through a list In-Reply-To: <8090E980-2D6E-4A05-AC3D-3F969821B588@caravanbeads.net> References: <8090E980-2D6E-4A05-AC3D-3F969821B588@caravanbeads.net> Message-ID: <0B954760-293C-4016-8DF2-2281B89A7FD7@JamesCook.biz> I didn't re-write your procedure with a loop, but if you saw my post yesterday, the loop there is doing almost exactly what you're seeking: Local lvFull, lvShort, lvCycle, lvTemp, lvCount, lvItem Local lvSep, lvJoin lvSep = ? lvJoin = " - " lvFull = IncomingArray ArrayDeDuplicate lvFull,lvShort,? lvCycle = 1 lvTemp="" Loop lvItem = array(lvShort,lvCycle,?) arrayfilter lvFull,lvCount,?,?(import() = lvItem,"x","") lvTemp = sandwich("",lvTemp,lvSep)+lvItem+lvJoin+pattern(arraysize(arraystrip(lvCount,?),?),"#,") lvCycle=lvCycle+1 Until arraysize(lvShort,?) IncomingArray = lvTemp On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Barry Kahn wrote: > I'd like to modify the procedure below so that it loops through a list of item number prefixes and stops when the list ends. Is that something one does with an array? I've no clue. > > Also would it make more sense to store the contents of each pass through the loop in an array and then transfer it all in one go into the MiyukiSalesRankings database? > > Thanks, > bk > > > > Select ItemNum beginswith "10C-" > Field SalesHistory > Sortdown > Field LocationCount > sequence "1 1" > > local theExportText > arrayselectedbuild theExportText, ? ,"",ItemNum+?+Description+?+str(LocationCount) > > > OpenFile "MiyukiSalesRankings" > Window "MiyukiSalesRankings" > OpenFile "+ at theExportText" > > > > > > Barry Kahn > Caravan Beads, Inc. > 915 Forest Ave > Portland ME 04103 > 800-230-8941 > fax: 207-874-2664 > www.caravanbeads.net > barryk at caravanbeads.net > > *** Please visit our bead blog: http://caravanbeads.biz/beadblog/ > > *** My daughter Heather's business: http://www.chrononautmercantile.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > James Cook Jim at JamesCook.biz http://JamesCook.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From strobelp at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 08:16:21 2012 From: strobelp at gmail.com (Pierre STROBEL) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:16:21 +0100 Subject: Classical Music catalog Message-ID: Hello Ron, I am in the same case as you. I have lots of classical music as both "iTunes pieces" and CD's. iTunes is not that bad but one has to adjust by hand the very important (and usually neglected in variety music) field "composer". It needs adjustment because data retrieved automatically by iTunes are not very consistent, i.e. "Mozart" or "W.A. Mozart" or "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart". I also put more details in the field called "genre" ("kind"? sorry I am using a french iTunes and I don't know this field name in English - this is the field that iTunes fills by default with "classical"): it can be handy to use this field to refine the musical type with keywords such as piano, symphonic, instrumental/vocal, etc., and for vocal pieces I add an abbreviation for religious/secular and for the language. For my CD collection, I made a small Panorama database with following fields: Composer, piece name, opus, piece type (as above), CD Publisher, Conductor, Orchestra or Ensemble, Soloists, CD complement, piece duration. I fill it basically by hand. It takes some work when you start, then it is OK if you do not buy CD's by hundreds? Pierre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wahib at gsc2000.com Mon Feb 27 08:34:58 2012 From: wahib at gsc2000.com (Wahib Afyouni) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:34:58 +0400 Subject: Classical Music catalog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Pierre, I also use a Panorama DB to catalog my classical music and include a field for the music notation key which I find very useful. I can then easily look for works in, say, G minor or A major. One thing I dislike about Apple's iTunes is that copying to the iPod limits the data to 3 fields only. For example you can get it to tell : - the composer name (Mozart) - the work name (Synphony # 41) - the number played (4th movement) The missing info would be the name of the performing artist which is quite often necessary. I wonder if there is a way around that limitation. On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Pierre STROBEL wrote: > Hello Ron, > I am in the same case as you. I have lots of classical music as both "iTunes pieces" and CD's. > iTunes is not that bad but one has to adjust by hand the very important (and usually neglected in variety music) field "composer". It needs adjustment because data retrieved automatically by iTunes are not very consistent, i.e. "Mozart" or "W.A. Mozart" or "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart". I also put more details in the field called "genre" ("kind"? sorry I am using a french iTunes and I don't know this field name in English - this is the field that iTunes fills by default with "classical"): it can be handy to use this field to refine the musical type with keywords such as piano, symphonic, instrumental/vocal, etc., and for vocal pieces I add an abbreviation for religious/secular and for the language. > For my CD collection, I made a small Panorama database with following fields: Composer, piece name, opus, piece type (as above), CD Publisher, Conductor, Orchestra or Ensemble, Soloists, CD complement, piece duration. I fill it basically by hand. It takes some work when you start, then it is OK if you do not buy CD's by hundreds? > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From BillArleneBush at cs.com Mon Feb 27 09:09:30 2012 From: BillArleneBush at cs.com (BillArleneBush at cs.com) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Array Wish List Message-ID: <19fb3.6359391.3c7d12ca@cs.com> Here is code using the assign( function. ....................... Local list,result list = "a,b,c,a,d,b" ------------------------------- FileGlobal temp,nTemp temp = ArraySort(list,",") nTemp=1 result = arraystrip(ArrayFilter(temp,",", {?(import() = array(temp,seq()+1,","),"",import()+" - "+str(nTemp)) +str(assign(?(import() = array(temp,seq()+1,","),nTemp+1,1),"nTemp"))[0;0] }),",") UnDefine temp,nTemp ----------------------------- Bill Bush In a message dated 2/27/12 6:31:34 AM, qna-request at provue.com writes: << Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:01:20 +0000 From: "Thompson, David" Here is a custom ARRAYELEMENTCOUNT statement, using the same algorithm. It might be possible to improve on this with the help of the assign( function. >> From Jim at JamesCook.biz Mon Feb 27 09:48:59 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:48:59 -0500 Subject: Panorama and ODBC - how? Message-ID: <4BC73FC0-D3D6-4D71-B599-F478F9BDCABD@JamesCook.biz> Friday, December 2nd, 2011, QuickData wrote: > Any ideas on how to get ODBC database table data into Panorama with minimal manual work or by using transparent outside "activity". I'm now at that same place - and also dealing with medical data. The answer is blowing in the wind. James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From designer at quickdata.com Mon Feb 27 09:56:17 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:56:17 -0800 Subject: Classical Music catalog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4BC3C1.5050706@quickdata.com> Wahib, You said there were only three fields but you didn't say how much data could be in each field. You could complied composer name with Artist, like "Mozart/Fred Smith". Unfortunately, that won't let you select all of Mozart or all of Fred Smith (artist) unless the iTunes selection is based on "contains" rather than "equals". Also, you'd have the decide if it is more convenient to sort on Composer or Artist (Mozart/Fred Smith or Fred Smith/Mozart). But once you decide, then all the Composer or Artist CD would be clustered together when you sort. If the Number Played is not something you usually sort/select on, then maybe you could combine that with Artist. That why your composer field would still be independent but you could select on Artist and still have the number played information: Fred Smith/4th movement. Sorting on Number Played would still cluster all Fred Smith together. Paul QuickData On 2/27/12 8:34 AM, Wahib Afyouni wrote: > Hello Pierre, > > I also use a Panorama DB to catalog my classical music and include a field for the music notation key which I find very useful. I can then easily look for works in, say, G minor or A major. > > One thing I dislike about Apple's iTunes is that copying to the iPod limits the data to 3 fields only. For example you can get it to tell : > - the composer name (Mozart) > - the work name (Synphony # 41) > - the number played (4th movement) > > The missing info would be the name of the performing artist which is quite often necessary. > > I wonder if there is a way around that limitation. > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Pierre STROBEL wrote: > >> Hello Ron, >> I am in the same case as you. I have lots of classical music as both "iTunes pieces" and CD's. >> iTunes is not that bad but one has to adjust by hand the very important (and usually neglected in variety music) field "composer". It needs adjustment because data retrieved automatically by iTunes are not very consistent, i.e. "Mozart" or "W.A. Mozart" or "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart". I also put more details in the field called "genre" ("kind"? sorry I am using a french iTunes and I don't know this field name in English - this is the field that iTunes fills by default with "classical"): it can be handy to use this field to refine the musical type with keywords such as piano, symphonic, instrumental/vocal, etc., and for vocal pieces I add an abbreviation for religious/secular and for the language. >> For my CD collection, I made a small Panorama database with following fields: Composer, piece name, opus, piece type (as above), CD Publisher, Conductor, Orchestra or Ensemble, Soloists, CD complement, piece duration. I fill it basically by hand. It takes some work when you start, then it is OK if you do not buy CD's by hundreds? >> Pierre >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From designer at quickdata.com Mon Feb 27 10:23:28 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:23:28 -0800 Subject: Panorama and ODBC - how? In-Reply-To: <4BC73FC0-D3D6-4D71-B599-F478F9BDCABD@JamesCook.biz> References: <4BC73FC0-D3D6-4D71-B599-F478F9BDCABD@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <4F4BCA20.1040308@quickdata.com> James, I use an "extract" application supplied by they medical software vendor that provides some tabled data, tab delimited, in one window. I can Select All, Copy, and import to Panorama from the clipboard. But that extract is "pre-filtered" and often doesn't contain the fields I did. So I have to go right to the source tables with SQL queries and SQL Server Manager software. As above, I can select, copy, and import from the clipboard. I'd imagine if the data were too big (sometimes 300,000 records), I can export the query result to Excel format. From there, I SaveAs ".txt" and import that to Panorama. I just had a thought that maybe SQL Manager also saves as "text" and just puts an .xlsx extension on it. If so, that would save a step. But I see software like RazorSQL and .... so hard to say it .... Access that will read the tables directly once an ODBC connection is establish in system tools. And, thinking back over 10 years ago, I think I used to write SQL code that would establish the connection directly in the procedure. Jim has pointed me to Ruby or PHP, or other scripting languages. It would be nice if there were a Panorama utility (procedure/function) where you could pass it the Database and table name, path, and required Authentication (username/password) and it would import the table. For me, it has not so much been how to write it as where you find the information you need. Several times I have googled to figure out how I can make a copy of a test SQL Server database - say on a flash drive that is big enough - that I could then play with with RazorSQL that I believe is Apple Scriptable. But we are spoiled with the simplicity and independence of Panorama Databases. Apparently the files I needed were not a "stand alone" database as such, it was somehow married to the SQL Server software. It certainly wasn't as simple as copying file A to location X and the opening File A (the database) and accessing the the data in each table. I'd need to take a class (books seem to only tell me what I already know or they assume information I don't know) that explains the structure and relationship between the actual SQL database and SQL Server Manager software and how you can access it outside that realm. But alas, the local community college doesn't cover such things. Paul QuickData On 2/27/12 9:48 AM, James Cook wrote: > Friday, December 2nd, 2011, QuickData wrote: >> Any ideas on how to get ODBC database table data into Panorama with >> minimal manual work or by using transparent outside "activity". > > I'm now at that same place - and also dealing with medical data. The > answer is blowing in the wind. > > > James Cook > JC at JamesCook.biz > > Panorama Tutoring > Custom Panorama Applications > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > http://HSLtd.us > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us Mon Feb 27 11:46:46 2012 From: jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us (Jeff Gold) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:46:46 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. Message-ID: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> Hello, Never heard anything back to this question from a few days ago, so I thought I'd put it out there again. Is there a third-party program I can use to more easily edit/spell check information that goes into a Panorama data sheet? For example, here are a couple interesting spelling programs: http://www.rainmakerinc.com/products/spellcatcherx/ http://www.ergonis.com/products/typinator/ Unless I am wrong, though, both require a program to use Apple's built-in editing system, whereas Panorama seems to have its own editor which doesn't allow for Apple's built-in spell checking or these third party utilities. Short of copying a big chunk of text out of Panorama then back into the data sheet after spell checking it, is there an easier way? Thanks, - Jeff From Jim at JamesCook.biz Mon Feb 27 12:21:52 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:21:52 -0500 Subject: Panorama and ODBC - how? In-Reply-To: <4F4BCA20.1040308@quickdata.com> References: <4BC73FC0-D3D6-4D71-B599-F478F9BDCABD@JamesCook.biz> <4F4BCA20.1040308@quickdata.com> Message-ID: <0E5DFB83-6D5C-4D95-963D-359087121151@JamesCook.biz> I'm okay with PHP and Python, using them on an as needed basis. It's an incredible asset that Panorama can speak these languages, so to speak. The problem is in knowing what commands to issue in order to get the text file output I need. Thanks Paul and Terry. I'll look at what you've both offered and see where it gets me. James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Mon Feb 27 14:54:24 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:54:24 -0800 Subject: Panorama and ODBC - how? In-Reply-To: <0E5DFB83-6D5C-4D95-963D-359087121151@JamesCook.biz> References: <4BC73FC0-D3D6-4D71-B599-F478F9BDCABD@JamesCook.biz> <4F4BCA20.1040308@quickdata.com> <0E5DFB83-6D5C-4D95-963D-359087121151@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: I can't get my hands on it right now, but I know I've got a PHP "cookbook" that has a chapter about how to access ODBC. I'm pretty sure it was an O'Reilly book. You might be able to find this via Amazon or the O'Reilly web site -- maybe I even listed it in the Panorama documentation. Jim On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM, James Cook wrote: > > I'm okay with PHP and Python, using them on an as needed basis. It's an > incredible asset that Panorama can speak these languages, so to speak. > > The problem is in knowing what commands to issue in order to get the text > file output I need. > > Thanks Paul and Terry. I'll look at what you've both offered and see where > it gets me. > > > > > James Cook > JC at JamesCook.biz > > Panorama Tutoring > Custom Panorama Applications > Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web > http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html > > Founder of HindSight Ltd. > http://HSLtd.us > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim at JamesCook.biz Mon Feb 27 16:14:01 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:14:01 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> Message-ID: <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> I'm a long time fan (and beta tester) of Spell Catcher. Since it works on every app I've got, there's just one interface and dictionary for all of them. It can take on specialized dictionaries and languages and can auto correct as I type. And yes, it works in the Datasheet or anywhere else that I type words. I especially like and use the shorthand glossary that allows me to build a list of keystrokes that it will automatically replace, even inserting multiple lines when I type the shorthand code for my signature block on email, for instance. It can learn words too. I've always meant to make it learn PanTalk but have not followed through, but I do have some of my favorite commands and functions set in the shorthand. "arybld" instantly expands to become "arraybuild array,separator,database,formula". Talk about handy! It's very reliable and undergoing active and continued development. Rainmakerinc.com - tell Evan I sent you and you can get an extra $10 added to the price. ;-) On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Jeff Gold wrote: > Hello, > > Never heard anything back to this question from a few days ago, so I thought I'd put it out there again. > > Is there a third-party program I can use to more easily edit/spell check information that goes into a Panorama data sheet? > > For example, here are a couple interesting spelling programs: > > http://www.rainmakerinc.com/products/spellcatcherx/ > > http://www.ergonis.com/products/typinator/ > > Unless I am wrong, though, both require a program to use Apple's built-in editing system, whereas Panorama seems to have its own editor which doesn't allow for Apple's built-in spell checking or these third party utilities. > > Short of copying a big chunk of text out of Panorama then back into the data sheet after spell checking it, is there an easier way? > > Thanks, > > - Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > James Cook Jim at JamesCook.biz http://JamesCook.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From designer at quickdata.com Mon Feb 27 17:21:00 2012 From: designer at quickdata.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:21:00 -0800 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> James, I was going to post about Spell Catcher too. But I decided to test it first. I opened a new database/datasheet and typed some misspelling into the cells. But I didn't see any indication that they were misspelled. I didn't try selecting them and look for some kind of "check selected" because I guessed the poster wanted them corrected on the fly. What indication do you get when you type mispelled into a data cell and tab out (or just hit space at the end of the word)? Paul QuikcData On 2/27/12 4:14 PM, James Cook wrote: > I'm a long time fan (and beta tester) of Spell Catcher. Since it works > on every app I've got, there's just one interface and dictionary for > all of them. It can take on specialized dictionaries and languages and > can auto correct as I type. > > And yes, it works in the Datasheet or anywhere else that I type words. > > I especially like and use the shorthand glossary that allows me to > build a list of keystrokes that it will automatically replace, even > inserting multiple lines when I type the shorthand code for my > signature block on email, for instance. > > It can learn words too. I've always meant to make it learn PanTalk but > have not followed through, but I do have some of my favorite commands > and functions set in the shorthand. "arybld" instantly expands to > become "arraybuild array,separator,database,formula". Talk about handy! > > It's very reliable and undergoing active and continued development. > > Rainmakerinc.com - tell Evan I sent you and > you can get an extra $10 added to the price. ;-) > > > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Jeff Gold wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Never heard anything back to this question from a few days ago, so I >> thought I'd put it out there again. >> >> Is there a third-party program I can use to more easily edit/spell >> check information that goes into a Panorama data sheet? >> >> For example, here are a couple interesting spelling programs: >> >> http://www.rainmakerinc.com/products/spellcatcherx/ >> >> http://www.ergonis.com/products/typinator/ >> >> Unless I am wrong, though, both require a program to use Apple's >> built-in editing system, whereas Panorama seems to have its own >> editor which doesn't allow for Apple's built-in spell checking or >> these third party utilities. >> >> Short of copying a big chunk of text out of Panorama then back into >> the data sheet after spell checking it, is there an easier way? >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Jeff >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > > James Cook > Jim at JamesCook.biz > > http://JamesCook.biz > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BillArleneBush at cs.com Mon Feb 27 17:37:07 2012 From: BillArleneBush at cs.com (BillArleneBush at cs.com) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:37:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( Message-ID: <3f878.2decdf2c.3c7d89c3@cs.com> I am making a registerfunction which transposes a 9x9 matrix. The following code: ------------------------- FileGlobal tempX Local temp,tempY tempX = replace(matrix,?,?) registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(?1,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) tempY =Transpose(tempX) ------------------------------- Produces a 81 tab() empty array. This code gives a correct answer: ----------------------------------------- tempX = replace(matrix,?,?) registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(tempX,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) temp =Transpose(tempX) ----------------------------- The only difference is the second ?1, which is changed to tempX. Is there a way to have the registerfunction handle the ArrayFilter( when the ?1 is in "THEFORMULA" part? PS: For the final result every 9th cr() will be changed to a tab(). Bill Bush From Jim at JamesCook.biz Mon Feb 27 19:18:28 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:18:28 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> Message-ID: <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz> Check the Spell Catcher Preferences. Specifically check Interactive and Alerts. Spell Catcher uses audio alerts if it suspects a word that it can't or won't auto correct. On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Paul wrote: > James, > I was going to post about Spell Catcher too. But I decided to test it first. > I opened a new database/datasheet and typed some misspelling into the cells. But I didn't see any indication that they were misspelled. > I didn't try selecting them and look for some kind of "check selected" because I guessed the poster wanted them corrected on the fly. > > What indication do you get when you type mispelled into a data cell and tab out (or just hit space at the end of the word)? > > Paul > QuikcData > > > On 2/27/12 4:14 PM, James Cook wrote: >> >> I'm a long time fan (and beta tester) of Spell Catcher. Since it works on every app I've got, there's just one interface and dictionary for all of them. It can take on specialized dictionaries and languages and can auto correct as I type. >> >> And yes, it works in the Datasheet or anywhere else that I type words. >> >> I especially like and use the shorthand glossary that allows me to build a list of keystrokes that it will automatically replace, even inserting multiple lines when I type the shorthand code for my signature block on email, for instance. >> >> It can learn words too. I've always meant to make it learn PanTalk but have not followed through, but I do have some of my favorite commands and functions set in the shorthand. "arybld" instantly expands to become "arraybuild array,separator,database,formula". Talk about handy! >> >> It's very reliable and undergoing active and continued development. >> >> Rainmakerinc.com - tell Evan I sent you and you can get an extra $10 added to the price. ;-) >> >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Jeff Gold wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Never heard anything back to this question from a few days ago, so I thought I'd put it out there again. >>> >>> Is there a third-party program I can use to more easily edit/spell check information that goes into a Panorama data sheet? >>> >>> For example, here are a couple interesting spelling programs: >>> >>> http://www.rainmakerinc.com/products/spellcatcherx/ >>> >>> http://www.ergonis.com/products/typinator/ >>> >>> Unless I am wrong, though, both require a program to use Apple's built-in editing system, whereas Panorama seems to have its own editor which doesn't allow for Apple's built-in spell checking or these third party utilities. >>> >>> Short of copying a big chunk of text out of Panorama then back into the data sheet after spell checking it, is there an easier way? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> - Jeff >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>> >> >> James Cook >> Jim at JamesCook.biz >> >> http://JamesCook.biz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna James Cook Jim at JamesCook.biz http://JamesCook.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Mon Feb 27 19:37:57 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:37:57 +0000 Subject: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( In-Reply-To: <3f878.2decdf2c.3c7d89c3@cs.com> References: <3f878.2decdf2c.3c7d89c3@cs.com> Message-ID: I think the problem here is that the THEFORMULA part is actually a text constant. It's the string "tempX" that you want to be part of that formula, and not the value of that variable. You will probably have to make that string a second parameter like this. registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",2,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(}+?2+{,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) tempY =Transpose(tempX,"tempX") You could get it down to one parameter by using the constantvalue( function, but you would need to adjust the formula buffer for large arrays. registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(}+constantvalue(?1)+{,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) tempY =Transpose(tempX) Dave ________________________________________ From: BillArleneBush at cs.com [BillArleneBush at cs.com] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:37 PM To: qna at provue.com Subject: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( I am making a registerfunction which transposes a 9x9 matrix. The following code: ------------------------- FileGlobal tempX Local temp,tempY tempX = replace(matrix,?,?) registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(?1,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) tempY =Transpose(tempX) ------------------------------- Produces a 81 tab() empty array. This code gives a correct answer: ----------------------------------------- tempX = replace(matrix,?,?) registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(tempX,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) temp =Transpose(tempX) ----------------------------- The only difference is the second ?1, which is changed to tempX. Is there a way to have the registerfunction handle the ArrayFilter( when the ?1 is in "THEFORMULA" part? PS: For the final result every 9th cr() will be changed to a tab(). Bill Bush _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Mon Feb 27 20:15:47 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 04:15:47 +0000 Subject: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( In-Reply-To: <3f878.2decdf2c.3c7d89c3@cs.com> References: <3f878.2decdf2c.3c7d89c3@cs.com> Message-ID: On a slightly different note, I've noticed a tendency (in my opinion) to use custom functions in cases where it makes more sense to use statements. In this case, for example, it is clear that there will be steps that precede and follow the use of registerfunction(, so this isn't a case where only a formula will do. The arrayfilter( and arraybuild( custom functions use a call( function to call a procedure which builds the appropriate ArrayFilter or ArrayBuild statement, and then uses Execute to execute it. That's a lot of overhead when you could have just used the statement in the first place, and with the statement there is no prohibition against using local variables in the formula. In the ARRAYELEMENTCOUNT code you posted this morning, you wound up creating and destroying FileGlobal variables that could have been local if ArrayFilter had been used instead of arrayfilter(. I consider custom functions that use the call( function in their formulas to be a sort of last resort. There are some cases where only a function will do, and for those cases they are very handy, but in cases where you could just as easily use the statement, I would rather use it directly, than call a procedure that will then use that same statement in its own code. Dave ________________________________________ From: BillArleneBush at cs.com [BillArleneBush at cs.com] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:37 PM To: qna at provue.com Subject: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( I am making a registerfunction which transposes a 9x9 matrix. The following code: ------------------------- FileGlobal tempX Local temp,tempY tempX = replace(matrix,?,?) registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(?1,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) tempY =Transpose(tempX) ------------------------------- Produces a 81 tab() empty array. This code gives a correct answer: ----------------------------------------- tempX = replace(matrix,?,?) registerfunction "","TRANSPOSE(",1,ArrayFilter(?1,?, {array(tempX,9*seq()-8 - 80*(int((seq()-1)/9)),?)}) temp =Transpose(tempX) ----------------------------- The only difference is the second ?1, which is changed to tempX. Is there a way to have the registerfunction handle the ArrayFilter( when the ?1 is in "THEFORMULA" part? PS: For the final result every 9th cr() will be changed to a tab(). Bill Bush _______________________________________________ Qna mailing list Qna at provue.com http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Mon Feb 27 20:28:12 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 04:28:12 +0000 Subject: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( In-Reply-To: References: <3f878.2decdf2c.3c7d89c3@cs.com>, Message-ID: Oops, I meant to say there will be steps that precede and follow transpose(. Dave ________________________________________ From: Thompson, David [dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:15 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: RE: registerfunction using ArrayFilter( In this case, for example, it is clear that there will be steps that precede and follow the use of registerfunction(, so this isn't a case where only a formula will do. From smerican at roadrunner.com Mon Feb 27 21:46:12 2012 From: smerican at roadrunner.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:46:12 -0800 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <566208BF-3CCF-4588-BF2C-C50A31C069A4@roadrunner.com> I have the audio turned off. When I enter a misspelled word in a Pano cell, Spell Catcher underlines it in red and opens a ?Questionable Spelling? window, similar to MS Word. If I want to check a word, I highlight it and choose, ?Check Selection? from the Spell Catcher drop down menu. Alan On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:18 PM, James Cook wrote: > Check the Spell Catcher Preferences. Specifically check Interactive and Alerts. Spell Catcher uses audio alerts if it suspects a word that it can't or won't auto correct. > > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Paul wrote: > >> James, >> I was going to post about Spell Catcher too. But I decided to test it first. >> I opened a new database/datasheet and typed some misspelling into the cells. But I didn't see any indication that they were misspelled. >> I didn't try selecting them and look for some kind of "check selected" because I guessed the poster wanted them corrected on the fly. >> >> What indication do you get when you type mispelled into a data cell and tab out (or just hit space at the end of the word)? >> >> Paul >> QuikcData >> >> >> On 2/27/12 4:14 PM, James Cook wrote: >>> >>> I'm a long time fan (and beta tester) of Spell Catcher. Since it works on every app I've got, there's just one interface and dictionary for all of them. It can take on specialized dictionaries and languages and can auto correct as I type. >>> >>> And yes, it works in the Datasheet or anywhere else that I type words. >>> >>> I especially like and use the shorthand glossary that allows me to build a list of keystrokes that it will automatically replace, even inserting multiple lines when I type the shorthand code for my signature block on email, for instance. >>> >>> It can learn words too. I've always meant to make it learn PanTalk but have not followed through, but I do have some of my favorite commands and functions set in the shorthand. "arybld" instantly expands to become "arraybuild array,separator,database,formula". Talk about handy! >>> >>> It's very reliable and undergoing active and continued development. >>> >>> Rainmakerinc.com - tell Evan I sent you and you can get an extra $10 added to the price. ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Jeff Gold wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Never heard anything back to this question from a few days ago, so I thought I'd put it out there again. >>>> >>>> Is there a third-party program I can use to more easily edit/spell check information that goes into a Panorama data sheet? >>>> >>>> For example, here are a couple interesting spelling programs: >>>> >>>> http://www.rainmakerinc.com/products/spellcatcherx/ >>>> >>>> http://www.ergonis.com/products/typinator/ >>>> >>>> Unless I am wrong, though, both require a program to use Apple's built-in editing system, whereas Panorama seems to have its own editor which doesn't allow for Apple's built-in spell checking or these third party utilities. >>>> >>>> Short of copying a big chunk of text out of Panorama then back into the data sheet after spell checking it, is there an easier way? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> - Jeff >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Qna mailing list >>>> Qna at provue.com >>>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >>>> >>> >>> James Cook >>> Jim at JamesCook.biz >>> >>> http://JamesCook.biz >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > James Cook > Jim at JamesCook.biz > > http://JamesCook.biz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kat was wondering how they'll handle laundry and I'm guessing they should do okay since this guy does such shirts already. You're probably in Sligo as you read this. I can put you in touch with a local cop if you ned some new friends. Or how about our favorite cabby, Ralph? Best to you, Jim James Cook Jim at JamesCook.biz http://JamesCook.biz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim at JamesCook.biz Tue Feb 28 07:00:11 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:00:11 -0500 Subject: Panorama and ODBC - how? In-Reply-To: References: <4BC73FC0-D3D6-4D71-B599-F478F9BDCABD@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <55750AC6-0BD8-4755-A369-AC98F0ECC46C@JamesCook.biz> Sigh... sorry about the accidental post meant for someone else, not the list. Gotta be more alert as to which message is active when I hit reply. 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I run into the problem of what is contained in a particular book (album), identifying many pieces with the same name and other designation, instrumentation, etc. I think that the best way is to catalog each individual piece, and then give it several other identifying fields, such as composer, instrumentation, key, etc. as well as the book or album that it belongs to, and where it is stored. If you have a large collection, as I do, the problems of cataloging it are immense. Bruce De Benedictis > Wahib, > You said there were only three fields but you didn't say how much data > could be in each field. > You could complied composer name with Artist, like "Mozart/Fred Smith". > > Unfortunately, that won't let you select all of Mozart or all of Fred > Smith (artist) unless the iTunes selection is based on "contains" rather > than "equals". > Also, you'd have the decide if it is more convenient to sort on Composer > or Artist (Mozart/Fred Smith or Fred Smith/Mozart). But once you decide, > then all the Composer or Artist CD would be clustered together when you > sort. > > If the Number Played is not something you usually sort/select on, then > maybe you could combine that with Artist. That why your composer field > would still be independent but you could select on Artist and still have > the number played information: Fred Smith/4th movement. > > Sorting on Number Played would still cluster all Fred Smith together. > > Paul > QuickData > > On 2/27/12 8:34 AM, Wahib Afyouni wrote: >> Hello Pierre, >> >> I also use a Panorama DB to catalog my classical music and include a field >> for the music notation key which I find very useful. I can then easily look >> for works in, say, G minor or A major. >> >> One thing I dislike about Apple's iTunes is that copying to the iPod limits >> the data to 3 fields only. For example you can get it to tell : >> - the composer name (Mozart) >> - the work name (Synphony # 41) >> - the number played (4th movement) >> >> The missing info would be the name of the performing artist which is quite >> often necessary. >> >> I wonder if there is a way around that limitation. >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Pierre STROBEL wrote: >> >>> Hello Ron, >>> I am in the same case as you. I have lots of classical music as both "iTunes >>> pieces" and CD's. >>> iTunes is not that bad but one has to adjust by hand the very important (and >>> usually neglected in variety music) field "composer". It needs adjustment >>> because data retrieved automatically by iTunes are not very consistent, i.e. >>> "Mozart" or "W.A. Mozart" or "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart". I also put more >>> details in the field called "genre" ("kind"? sorry I am using a french >>> iTunes and I don't know this field name in English - this is the field that >>> iTunes fills by default with "classical"): it can be handy to use this field >>> to refine the musical type with keywords such as piano, symphonic, >>> instrumental/vocal, etc., and for vocal pieces I add an abbreviation for >>> religious/secular and for the language. >>> For my CD collection, I made a small Panorama database with following >>> fields: Composer, piece name, opus, piece type (as above), CD Publisher, >>> Conductor, Orchestra or Ensemble, Soloists, CD complement, piece duration. I >>> fill it basically by hand. It takes some work when you start, then it is OK >>> if you do not buy CD's by hundreds? >>> Pierre >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qna mailing list >>> Qna at provue.com >>> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna >> > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us Tue Feb 28 12:21:39 2012 From: jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us (Jeff Gold) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:21:39 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz> Message-ID: <38E9A23C-DF14-46E7-8AF7-C3C5790A712F@state.ga.weo.us> Having fun with "Spell Catcher" and Panorama. Thanks for all the suggestions, Jim. FYI... To others who are trying this, most of the features you need for Spell Catcher to work with Panorama are disabled in the demo version. A couple questions for Jim Cook: 1) Is there a way to have Spell Catcher check a whole paragraph of text and stay within Panorama's data sheet, or when you check more than the current word does it always have to copy the text out to its own Spell Catcher editing window. (For now, we are just pressing COMMAND-CONTROL-EQUALSIGN to proof a whole paragraph within the datasheet, but it would be easier if we could proof in the datasheet itself rather than viewing text in a separate program.) 2) (Not a Spell Catcher Question) Is there a key combination to edit the currently highlighted field in the Panorama datasheet without double-clicking on it? Best wishes, - Jeff From dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu Tue Feb 28 13:29:55 2012 From: dthmpsn1 at illinois.edu (Thompson, David) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:29:55 +0000 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <38E9A23C-DF14-46E7-8AF7-C3C5790A712F@state.ga.weo.us> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz>, <38E9A23C-DF14-46E7-8AF7-C3C5790A712F@state.ga.weo.us> Message-ID: It's not a combination, but the enter key will open the cell for editing if it's currently closed. If it's open the enter key closes it and enters the edited value. Also, I believe the tab key will open the highlighted cell if it's closed. If it's open of course, it closes the current cell and tabs you over to the next one. Dave ________________________________________ From: Jeff Gold [jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:21 PM To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) Subject: Re: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. 2) (Not a Spell Catcher Question) Is there a key combination to edit the currently highlighted field in the Panorama datasheet without double-clicking on it? From j.franzen at verizon.net Tue Feb 28 15:09:24 2012 From: j.franzen at verizon.net (James Franzen) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:09:24 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz>, <38E9A23C-DF14-46E7-8AF7-C3C5790A712F@state.ga.weo.us> Message-ID: OS 10.7 - MacBookPro-2011 holding the fn key down and tapping the enter/return key will open a closed data cell. Jim Franzen j.franzen at verizon.net On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > It's not a combination, but the enter key will open the cell for editing if it's currently closed. If it's open the enter key closes it and enters the edited value. Also, I believe the tab key will open the highlighted cell if it's closed. If it's open of course, it closes the current cell and tabs you over to the next one. > > Dave > ________________________________________ > From: Jeff Gold [jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:21 PM > To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > Subject: Re: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. > > 2) (Not a Spell Catcher Question) Is there a key combination to edit the currently highlighted field in the Panorama datasheet without double-clicking on it? > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com Tue Feb 28 16:28:39 2012 From: bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com (Bruce De Benedictis) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:28:39 -0800 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: KeyRemap4MacBook allows me to assign the right option key to be an enter key, like older Mac portables. I find it to be an essential utility, and it is free. Bruce De Benedictis > OS 10.7 - MacBookPro-2011 > holding the fn key down and tapping the enter/return key will open a closed > data cell. > > > Jim Franzen > j.franzen at verizon.net > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > >> It's not a combination, but the enter key will open the cell for editing if >> it's currently closed. If it's open the enter key closes it and enters the >> edited value. Also, I believe the tab key will open the highlighted cell if >> it's closed. If it's open of course, it closes the current cell and tabs you >> over to the next one. >> >> Dave >> ________________________________________ >> From: Jeff Gold [jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:21 PM >> To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) >> Subject: Re: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. >> >> 2) (Not a Spell Catcher Question) Is there a key combination to edit the >> currently highlighted field in the Panorama datasheet without double-clicking >> on it? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qna mailing list >> Qna at provue.com >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna From sgallaghe at aol.com Tue Feb 28 16:31:38 2012 From: sgallaghe at aol.com (Steve Gallagher) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:31:38 -0800 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use KeyMapper4MacBook just for this function. Another one of those "muscle memory" things I got so used to that it was jarring when it went away. On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Bruce De Benedictis wrote: > KeyRemap4MacBook allows me to assign the right option key to be an enter > key, like older Mac portables. I find it to be an essential utility, and it > is free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at provue.com Tue Feb 28 19:58:18 2012 From: jim at provue.com (Jim Rea) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:58:18 -0800 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, KeyRemap4MacBook is one of the first items I install on a new MacBook as well. Drives me crazy when I used someone else's MacBook without it. Jim On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Bruce De Benedictis < bruce_de_benedictis at mac.com> wrote: > KeyRemap4MacBook allows me to assign the right option key to be an enter > key, like older Mac portables. I find it to be an essential utility, and it > is free. > > Bruce De Benedictis > > > OS 10.7 - MacBookPro-2011 > > holding the fn key down and tapping the enter/return key will open a > closed > > data cell. > > > > > > Jim Franzen > > j.franzen at verizon.net > > > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Thompson, David wrote: > > > >> It's not a combination, but the enter key will open the cell for > editing if > >> it's currently closed. If it's open the enter key closes it and enters > the > >> edited value. Also, I believe the tab key will open the highlighted > cell if > >> it's closed. If it's open of course, it closes the current cell and > tabs you > >> over to the next one. > >> > >> Dave > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: Jeff Gold [jeff_gold at state.ga.weo.us] > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:21 PM > >> To: Panorama Questions & Answers (Discussion) > >> Subject: Re: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. > >> > >> 2) (Not a Spell Catcher Question) Is there a key combination to edit the > >> currently highlighted field in the Panorama datasheet without > double-clicking > >> on it? > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Qna mailing list > >> Qna at provue.com > >> http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qna mailing list > > Qna at provue.com > > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim at JamesCook.biz Wed Feb 29 05:49:09 2012 From: Jim at JamesCook.biz (James Cook) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:49:09 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: <38E9A23C-DF14-46E7-8AF7-C3C5790A712F@state.ga.weo.us> References: <46150FF1-B86B-4AAC-8784-C54BE744599A@state.ga.weo.us> <20DFB8B8-2CB7-4DAF-9356-3D4D75844171@JamesCook.biz> <4F4C2BFC.7030004@quickdata.com> <1EBCF65E-4A36-4BD1-A593-37441E7DBB77@JamesCook.biz> <38E9A23C-DF14-46E7-8AF7-C3C5790A712F@state.ga.weo.us> Message-ID: <536371DE-7BA8-4EE2-838E-C7A4AB539FC6@JamesCook.biz> On the first question - not as far as I know. While typing I'm making corrections. For proofing, that's just how it is in taking it to the SC window for examination and correction. I can't see how they could add their interface inside a Panorama data cell. On the second, I use the Enter key to activate a cell. The whole thing is highlighted when it opens so a single press of the up or left arrow key jumps the cursor to the front, the right or down arrow key jumps it to the end. On Feb 28, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jeff Gold wrote: > Having fun with "Spell Catcher" and Panorama. Thanks for all the suggestions, Jim. FYI... To others who are trying this, most of the features you need for Spell Catcher to work with Panorama are disabled in the demo version. > > A couple questions for Jim Cook: > > 1) Is there a way to have Spell Catcher check a whole paragraph of text and stay within Panorama's data sheet, or when you check more than the current word does it always have to copy the text out to its own Spell Catcher editing window. (For now, we are just pressing COMMAND-CONTROL-EQUALSIGN to proof a whole paragraph within the datasheet, but it would be easier if we could proof in the datasheet itself rather than viewing text in a separate program.) > > 2) (Not a Spell Catcher Question) Is there a key combination to edit the currently highlighted field in the Panorama datasheet without double-clicking on it? > > Best wishes, > > - Jeff > > > _______________________________________________ > Qna mailing list > Qna at provue.com > http://provue.com/mailman/listinfo/qna > James Cook JC at JamesCook.biz Panorama Tutoring Custom Panorama Applications Specializing in Panorama Enterprise for the Web http://jamescook.biz/about/computers.html Founder of HindSight Ltd. http://HSLtd.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trackmanpete at comcast.net Wed Feb 29 16:31:46 2012 From: trackmanpete at comcast.net (Pete Schuder) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:31:46 -0500 Subject: Spell Checking & Panorama Data Sheets. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F4EC372.7020108@comcast.net> I tried this program and found that once it was active, my ability to type fast was compromised, as the key strokes really slowed down. Is this common? On 2/28/12 10:58 PM, Jim Rea wrote: > Yes, KeyRemap4MacBook is one of the first items I install on a new > MacBook as well. Drives me crazy when I used someone else's MacBook > without it. > > Jim >